Let's see your electric fan solutions
#2767195
04/22/20 07:03 PM
04/22/20 07:03 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,711 Moved to N.E. Tennessee
GomangoCuda
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,711
Moved to N.E. Tennessee
|
Are there any high flow electric fans out there that do not require electronics to run. Not interested in the Mercedes fan for this reason. Suitable fans should be able to be modified to fit typical oem brass or aftermarket aluminum radiators in our Mopars and clear typical water pumps. No pusher fans. No PWM boxes unless they are readily available anywhere. I've seen the HHR and Ford fans. Do they flow enough for street duty or are they best used by race cars? Anything else out there?
Thanks
Last edited by GomangoCuda; 04/22/20 10:02 PM.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: GomangoCuda]
#2767200
04/22/20 07:34 PM
04/22/20 07:34 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,999 Salem
Grizzly
Moparts Proctologist
|
Moparts Proctologist
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,999
Salem
|
ANY fan will work. For compactness the Dodge Neon fans can't be beat and you can get them at Pick and Pull for next to nothing.
I'm running a wimpy fan of unknown origin (rumor it came out of a Dodge Omni), direct wired to a 10 amp toggle switch and it cools my 5600 pound 4x4 360 no problem.It turns slow because of the switch but it's not an issue. I've even pulled a trailer with it and still never had a problem.
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: Grizzly]
#2767204
04/22/20 07:44 PM
04/22/20 07:44 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 20,627 in a cattle trailer down by th...
Guitar Jones
Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
|
Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 20,627
in a cattle trailer down by th...
|
ANY fan will work. For compactness the Dodge Neon fans can't be beat and you can get them at Pick and Pull for next to nothing.
I'm running a wimpy fan of unknown origin (rumor it came out of a Dodge Omni), direct wired to a 10 amp toggle switch and it cools my 5600 pound 4x4 360 no problem.It turns slow because of the switch but it's not an issue. I've even pulled a trailer with it and still never had a problem. Could be where you live too. 120 in the dessert is a tad different than Fargo ND.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon! 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: DrCharles]
#2767216
04/22/20 08:23 PM
04/22/20 08:23 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,526 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,526
Fulton County, PA
|
I've used SPAL fans on a few custom deals. Nice, quality. And to my knowledge still made in Italy. Not China junk.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2767218
04/22/20 08:38 PM
04/22/20 08:38 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,492 Eagle, Idaho
Neil
The Doctor is in.
|
The Doctor is in.
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,492
Eagle, Idaho
|
My brother has a twin fan unit out of a supercharged Pontiac Bonneville and it moves a lot of air. It's in a GM car with a crossflow radiator so it may be the wrong shape to fit a Mopar radiator.
Get the biggest one that covers as much of the radiator as you can..
Last edited by Neil; 04/22/20 08:38 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2767219
04/22/20 08:39 PM
04/22/20 08:39 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,853 Pattison Texas
CSK
master
|
master
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,853
Pattison Texas
|
I have the Derale dual fans & their PWM, works great, 512ci,Cold A/C, southeast Texas heat, 180ish all day long, had to grind a spot on each outer fan plastic holder to clear the water pump pulley
Last edited by csk; 04/22/20 08:40 PM.
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
#2767278
04/23/20 12:04 AM
04/23/20 12:04 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,220 West Plains, MO
DrCharles
master
|
master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,220
West Plains, MO
|
I have Ford Contour fans on the 5.7L Hemi and they will cool the car in Texas Summers on low speed. Good to know. So it probably will work for a bigger engine in the heat, on high speed. I run the fans on high speed when the a/c is on and they move a TON of air. Ensure your charging system is up to par with any of the solutions out there. I'd really consider using a PWM fan controller, if I were you. Yes, those are "electronics", but they are very effective for managing electrical loads. I am about to do just that... I did a simple installation with both fans wired in parallel for full voltage only, and a hefty 80 amp relay to turn them on and off. Does a great job keeping the 451 cool, but with my huge (for the street) cam, when the electrical load suddenly comes on, it can really pull the RPM too far down (especially if coming to a stop at the same moment). I had a HHR fan with the 318, which also worked pretty well. I tried that first, but the HHR would not fit between the water pump nose and the radiator in my A-body. And it can't be run as a pusher by reversing the motor, because the blades are scooped the wrong way. Other than the enormous Mercedes fan, the Contour pair seems to be a good solution all around.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: DrCharles]
#2767399
04/23/20 12:18 PM
04/23/20 12:18 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 25,050 Texas
GoodysGotaCuda
5.7L Hemi, 6spd
|
5.7L Hemi, 6spd
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 25,050
Texas
|
I have Ford Contour fans on the 5.7L Hemi and they will cool the car in Texas Summers on low speed. Good to know. So it probably will work for a bigger engine in the heat, on high speed. This is where I would take advantage of a PWM fan controller. Wire the PWM controller to the high speed windings on the fan and let it manage temp between 0% and 100% high speed, you won't have a problem. Ever.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: dvw]
#2767404
04/23/20 12:24 PM
04/23/20 12:24 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,342 north of coder
moparx
"Butt Crack Bob"
|
"Butt Crack Bob"
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,342
north of coder
|
I run the dual fans out of a late model Challenger/Charger/300. Easy to adapt. Doug i'm doing the same fan setup on my charger now, although i don't have any pics. my fan is for a 2016 model year with the 6.1 [i think ? the bigger one below the hellcat version] hemi. i am also upgrading my alternator to a 95 amp denso, and will be running my fans through a relay system at the very least, although i'm also considering a PMW controller.
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: moparx]
#2767437
04/23/20 01:35 PM
04/23/20 01:35 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 116 Eastern Shore of Maryland
nasty68
member
|
member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 116
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
I also run the ford contour fans. I use a flex-a-lite controller to run them. Soft start up and they run faster or slower depending on what the car wants. I also have a switch hooked up that will run them on high if i need to.
68 dart, 383, 727 2013 Jeep JKU Sahara
|
|
|
Re: Let's see your electric fan solutions
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2767825
04/24/20 12:33 PM
04/24/20 12:33 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york
hemi-itis
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,587
Great Neck,LI,new york
|
I've used SPAL fans on a few custom deals. Nice, quality. And to my knowledge still made in Italy. Not China junk. That's the answer! After my junkyard fans centrifically exploded after a 145 MPH pass I bought a 16 inch spal pusher fan that cools my 545 inch blown hemi. 185* when it's over 90*.Back at the starting line it's down to 160*. The spal fan was $135 and their mounting system is easy peasy.
HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!
|
|
|
|
|