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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2764102
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If Ivermectin does turn out to be valuable, the USA should thank its lucky stars that so much Ivermectin is in stock to treat our pets and horses. Give your pets and horses some nice treat.

Drink an Australian beer in a toast to their medical researchers.

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More scary stuff

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-china-didnt-pandemic-key-days.html

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"This is tremendous," said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients and medical facilities would have been sufficient. We might have avoided the collapse of Wuhan's medical system."
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But the six-day delay by China's leaders in Beijing came on top of almost two weeks during which the national Center for Disease Control did not register any cases from local officials, internal bulletins obtained by the AP confirm. Yet during that time, from Jan. 5 to Jan. 17, hundreds of patients were appearing in hospitals not just in Wuhan but across the country.
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The influenza epidemic of 1917-1919 is better known now,
but in 1916 New York City got hit with another very frightening virus....

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-virus-brought-york-standstill-summer.html

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Foot sores from covid-19

https://www.timesnownews.com/health...-of-covid-19-all-you-need-to-know/578341

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Foot sores – the newest symptom of COVID-19
Initially, it was believed that fever, cough, chest congestions are the key symptoms of coronavirus infection or COVID-19, the disease caused due to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. However, as more cases of the viral infection were reported, other symptoms like lack of taste and smell, headaches, body aches, etc. A recent report has found that foot sores may also be a symptom of COVID-19.

According to a report in the International Business Times, foot lesions, sores or bruises, seen commonly in other viral infections like chickenpox or measles were found in some COVID-19 patients as well, and experts have warned that these sores could be an early sign of the disease.

"They are purple lesions
(very similar to those of chickenpox, measles or chilblains)
which usually appear on the toes and normally heal without leaving a mark," the Spanish General Council of Official Podiatrist Colleges explained in a statement. , IB Times reported.

Such marks and bruises were commonly seen as a symptom in younger patients in Italy, France and Spain. Few adults also reported of the symptom.
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UVa believes exercise can boost a highly protective chemical against worst effect of COVID-19

https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/uovh-cem041520.php

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Yan, the director of the Center for Skeletal Muscle Research at UVA's Robert M. Berne Cardiovascular Research Center, compiled an in-depth review of existing medical research, including his own, looking at an antioxidant known as "extracellular superoxide dismutase" (EcSOD). This potent antioxidant hunts down harmful free radicals, protecting our tissues and helping to prevent disease. Our muscles naturally make EcSOD, secreting it into the circulation to allow binding to other vital organs, but its production is enhanced by cardiovascular exercise.

A decrease in the antioxidant is seen in several diseases, including acute lung disease, ischemic heart disease and kidney failure, Yan's review shows. Lab research in mice suggests that blocking its production worsens heart problems, while increasing it has a beneficial effect. A decrease in EcSOD is also associated with chronic conditions such as osteoarthritis.

Research suggests that even a single session of exercise increases production of the antioxidant, prompting Yan to urge people to find ways to exercise even while maintaining social distancing. "We cannot live in isolation forever," he said. "Regular exercise has far more health benefits than we know. The protection against this severe respiratory disease condition is just one of the many examples."

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British analysis of what other illnesses most affect coronavirus deaths in men versus women.
Many graphs

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52308783

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Originally Posted by 360view
British analysis of what other illnesses most affect coronavirus deaths in men versus women.
Many graphs

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52308783

Interesting that more males 0-69 without pre existing conditions die than those with pre existing conditions except for heart disease.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Guitar Jones] #2764869
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360, you sure post a LOT of links.
Are you retired?

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Guitar Jones] #2764872
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Worked the garden and yard all day, contemplated a lot.
I wonder what the actual illness and demise numbers are, world-wide. Seems some countries have been sequestering numbers for whatever reason.
I read and watched just a little of Birx about the rollback stages. I've been not seeing much complaince with current regulations and can only believe the way most people are this day and age the cases will quickly rebound upward.
Seems that we could quickly be back in dire straights withour actually knowing just how bad it has beem.

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As of tonight: 4-16-2020 Top 5 countries with covid-19 cases in the world:

United States: 667,801 (known) cases...just under 33,000 DEATHS....and climbing frowwn

Spain: 184,948 cases

Italy: 168,941 cases

France: 147,091 cases

Germany: 137,968 cases

This means the covid-19 numbers in our country is larger than the top four countries COMBINED. eek This is not going away until MASSIVE TESTING is put in place, all over the country on a consistant daily basis....which the federal goverment is unwilling to do. mad


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I am retired from Mining Engineering
but my parents fell ill and I have been running a “nursing home for two,”
then sadly one, for 16 years with help from my sister and brothers.

In 1998 I began reading the abstracts of medical reports every day,
not about viruses,
but about the newest research in Dementia.

Starting about 3 years ago though,
the Herpes family of viruses ( Roseola, Epstein Bar, Cyclomeglia, HSV1, Chickenpox, and many more)
has become an active area of Dementia research.

COVID-19 also seems to attack the brain.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: RoadRunnerLuva] #2764912
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Originally Posted by RoadRunnerLuva
As of tonight: 4-16-2020 Top 5 countries with covid-19 cases in the world:

United States: 667,801 (known) cases...just under 33,000 DEATHS....and climbing frowwn

Spain: 184,948 cases

Italy: 168,941 cases

France: 147,091 cases

Germany: 137,968 cases

This means the covid-19 numbers in our country is larger than the top four countries COMBINED. eek This is not going away until MASSIVE TESTING is put in place, all over the country on a consistant daily basis....which the federal goverment is unwilling to do. mad



The population of the US is also more than double that of all 4 of those countries combined. The known rate of infection in the US is approximately half of those 4 countries (.002% here vs .004% for those countries).

The death rate shows an even greater disparity with the 4 countries you've highlighted experiencing more than double the deaths than the US has seen, almost 64,000 combined.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2764914
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The US is 19 times larger than Spain...33 times larger than Italy...18 times larger than France...and 28 times larger than Germany...

Germany is about the size of Montana alone and is about 3 times the size of New York...

As of 7:00 am 4/17/20

Spain......19,315 deaths x 19 = 366,985
Italy........ 22,170 deaths x 33 = 731,610
France... 17,920 deaths x 18 = 322,560
Germany 4,108 deaths x 28 = 115,024

Not to mention most all deaths in the US are being labeled as CV-19 whether they are or not...

The Death rate in March was 1.38%...The survival rate is 98.62%...

Perspective....


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Thank you for displaying some sense. People that are scared are rarely rational.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: srt] #2764929
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Originally Posted by srt

I wonder what the actual illness and demise numbers are, world-wide



Would be nice to know the "actual" numbers, but I think it'll be sometime after the "dust settles" that we'll find out how just blown out of proportion/hyped some of these events really were....

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Originally Posted by skicker
The US is 19 times larger than Spain...33 times larger than Italy...18 times larger than France...and 28 times larger than Germany...

Germany is about the size of Montana alone and is about 3 times the size of New York...

As of 7:00 am 4/17/20

Spain......19,315 deaths x 19 = 366,985
Italy........ 22,170 deaths x 33 = 731,610
France... 17,920 deaths x 18 = 322,560
Germany 4,108 deaths x 28 = 115,024

Not to mention most all deaths in the US are being labeled as CV-19 whether they are or not...

The Death rate in March was 1.38%...The survival rate is 98.62%...

Perspective....

You're correct that comparing numbers directly isn't comparing apples to apples. But neither is a linear scaling by population. The population density (which is a major factor in the spread of coronavirus) of all of those European countries is much higher than the population density of the America.


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Been saying it for weeks, this is a metabolic issue.

NYU study with 4k patient hospitalizations the past month, number 1 issue with positive Covid patients requiring hospitalization, Obesity: https://www.zdnet.com/article/nyu-s...ggest-factor-in-new-york-critical-cases/

UK does big study on ICU patients, same conclusion:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...EA06nIEZZ5roOm0Agf0vuQmpETZPz2ty_iPEJXLo

Commentary from that article by one of the doctors: What is staggering is after looking at all the data it is irrefutable that metabolic disease is the leading cause of mortality from Covid-19. This covers much of what we are already being told, that outcomes for patients suffering from Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and high blood pressure are far worse than in otherwise healthy adults. What is not being spelled out is that poor diet and obesity is behind this.

We just had our entire country shut down because a virus exploits people with metabolic disease from overeating. The good news, you can control this and build your resilience so it's not a serious issue for you going forward.

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A member on A Body’s Only got Coronavirus and started a post about what he went through. He’s 65 and has some health issues but man from the sounds of it please try to avoid getting it.


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Originally Posted by McCandlessboy
Been saying it for weeks, this is a metabolic issue.

NYU study with 4k patient hospitalizations the past month, number 1 issue with positive Covid patients requiring hospitalization, Obesity: https://www.zdnet.com/article/nyu-s...ggest-factor-in-new-york-critical-cases/

UK does big study on ICU patients, same conclusion:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...EA06nIEZZ5roOm0Agf0vuQmpETZPz2ty_iPEJXLo

Commentary from that article by one of the doctors: What is staggering is after looking at all the data it is irrefutable that metabolic disease is the leading cause of mortality from Covid-19. This covers much of what we are already being told, that outcomes for patients suffering from Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and high blood pressure are far worse than in otherwise healthy adults. What is not being spelled out is that poor diet and obesity is behind this.

We just had our entire country shut down because a virus exploits people with metabolic disease from overeating. The good news, you can control this and build your resilience so it's not a serious issue for you going forward.


They are saying that blacks are more susceptible to the virus than others.. that being said I can sorta
understand it.. blacks tend to eat more fried foods and tend to eat more fast foods and the big thing is
they push the fast foods towards blacks.. just a observation on my part based on the KFC commercials
wave

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: RoadRunnerLuva] #2764959
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Originally Posted by RoadRunnerLuva
As of tonight: 4-16-2020 Top 5 countries with covid-19 cases in the world:

United States: 667,801 (known) cases...just under 33,000 DEATHS....and climbing frowwn

Spain: 184,948 cases

Italy: 168,941 cases

France: 147,091 cases

Germany: 137,968 cases

This means the covid-19 numbers in our country is larger than the top four countries COMBINED. eek This is not going away until MASSIVE TESTING is put in place, all over the country on a consistant daily basis....which the federal goverment is unwilling to do. mad

you really need to stop watching the MSM bullcrap, we are on the down hill side and when the weather warms up it will just about stop it in its tracks, but by watching the MSM media you are most likely not aware of that.

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