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oxy/acetylene heating Q #2763779
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I have some rear shackles that I need to remove from the leafs & the nuts are solid tight & I dont want to break em off & ruin it. My nut cracker is broken so can I heat the nut with the hot wrench cherry red then remove it or will that weaken the bolt? thank you for your time


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: RapidRobert] #2763787
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The shackle is just cold roll material
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It'll be fine. If in doubt, replace the nut.
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I worried that if I heat the nut cherry red that it will weaken the bolt that it is on. Am I worried over nothing?


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: RapidRobert] #2763795
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I use strong heat when nothing else works. Since you are going to heat them, try this first. Heat them enough so that they start to smoke, something other than burning off road debris. When hot enough, melt wax from the top down, crayon works. The wax runs down the threads and allows for the break. Works 90% of the time. If not, you are close to half way there with the heating.

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Your over thinking it.. heat it up
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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: RapidRobert] #2763801
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Rubber/urethane bushing? I wonder if it's true. I was told if you breathe burning urethane it will kill you.


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: rickseeman] #2763811
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Fuel tank is right there Robert, so be careful.

Just heat the nut, not the bolt.


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: rickseeman] #2763812
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the nut is on the other side of the shackle flat piece so I think I'm good on the fumes (if I work fast). I dont have a crayon handy so I will go ahead & heat it up. Thanks guys up


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: rickseeman] #2763817
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either one inhaled ain't good for you !
i use the heat/wax, birthday candle, crayon trick all the time. that works GREAT ! i removed all the tiny slot screws from the cowl vent screen from my 1933 dodge "humpback" panel delivery project using this method, and half of them had the screwdriver slot in the screw head almost rusted away.
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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: moparx] #2763821
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Originally Posted by moparx
either one inhaled ain't good for you !
i use the heat/wax, birthday candle, crayon trick all the time. that works GREAT ! i removed all the tiny slot screws from the cowl vent screen from my 1933 dodge "humpback" panel delivery project using this method, and half of them had the screwdriver slot in the screw head almost rusted away.
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Put the fire to the flat side of the nut until it shows some color and spin the nut off. Don't use your fingers... lol.

If it doesn't go well, new shackles aren't that expensive.

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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: Twostick] #2763860
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X2 on using wax. I use gulf wax, never had rusted nut or bolt not come apart. Just heat & apply nurmerous times.

Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: rickraw] #2763875
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Maybe you should consider getting a new nut splitter?


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2763887
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Never really needed one for 45yrs.

Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: rickraw] #2763908
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PB Blaster is a good product to help get stuff apart...if it's salvageable. Sometimes new parts are the correct answer.


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I'll get on it, I appreciate the advice/help. Thank you!


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: RapidRobert] #2764192
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Sometimes, two heat cycles will work. I used to work at and asphalt plant and most of it was bolted together. Everything rusted. We would heat the nut to the point that some color appeared and then let it air cool. Then we would heat it up again and put a wrench on it. I don't know why it worked, it just did.


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I couldn't find a nut splitter on hand locally so I will try that


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Re: oxy/acetylene heating Q [Re: RapidRobert] #2764203
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That candle trick is pretty slick. Or give it a good soaking in Aero-Kroil..... work

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I had a stuck nut on a shackle and it was rounded over. I took my MIG and welded two wings on the nut so a ViceGrip had some thing to grab on to. This got the nut real hot. While still very warm I sprayed PB Buster on the threads, let cool and it spun off real quick. Then just replaced the nut with a stainless steel one.


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