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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Twostick] #2763369
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To those concerned about ventilator availability, I'm seeing reports from our local medical professionals saying that the machines may do more harm than good in a lot of cases. Survival rates if it comes to a ventilator aren't good.

They are seeing patients in respiratory distress with O2 saturation levels that would indicate needing a machine BUT they are still coherent and able to speak which based on their O2 levels would be highly unlikely.

They are now trying high flow oxygen through a cannula (that plastic thingy they put in your nose) and are seeing better recovery results vs ventilators. The high flow puts positive pressure in the airway which helps inflate the lungs without causing stress to the tissue like the higher pressure ventilator does.

Basically they don't want to ventilate you unless your oxygen levels drop below survival levels or you can't physically breathe.

Something for you to look into FYI should you or someone you know be in the risk group.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Twostick] #2763398
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Omega 3 oils have many health advantages, one of the lesser known ones is that Omega 3 oil allows your body to survive much lower than normal blood oxygen levels.

Years ago a single coal miner at the Sago Mine survived being in carbon monoxide contaminated air but all his crew mates died despite the men being together. It was later found that he liked fish and had eaten it 3 to 4 days per week prior to the mine disaster.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19523448/the-governments-big-fish-story/

http://wvmetronews.com/2015/12/31/sago-mine-disaster-survivor-10-years-later/

Omega 3 oils also reduce blood clotting.






Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2763399
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What's the number reason people end up in the hospital, in NY, with Covid? Being obese. Study just released on past month of patients that were hospitalized. If you're fat and old, you're in the most vulnerable category.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/nyu-s...qV-kEj36CLb3AatCUQ0pVMY8xhAEeczmHoWDOYIw

Time for everyone to lose weight.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2763410
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Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
I have one big concern... people will get fed up quick with the lock down and start going out in
groups then it spreading more/again and if this does happen all if this will last a long time.. I
sure hope not
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Like a dog escaping from it's short chain running and marking EVERYTHING it comes near in a 5 mile radius. People will go out and forget about safety precautions we rely on for protection against diseases during this situation. I'm still a dealership tech and I don't like the fact that they will call me back soon and I'll have to start getting back into the "germ incubator" that most peoples interiors are. I'm a high risk(diabetic with asthma 57 years old) and with all the airbag recalls I have to remove most of the dash and A-pillars,every thing that gets the cough and sneeze bacteria runaway

I have to admit it I am scared to get back to work and climbing into someones interior and touching all there stuff shruggy

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2763491
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U of Michigan says their analysis hints that hundred year old BCG vaccine partially protects against COVID-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-mandated-tb-vaccination-flattened-covid-.html

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Berg and colleagues analyzed daily reports of confirmed cases and deaths during a 30-day period, modeling differences between growth curves in countries that have mandated BCG policies at least until very recently (such as Brazil, Ireland, France and India) and countries that do not (such as the U.S., Italy and Lebanon).

While the new report contributes to research involving TB vaccinations, it also noted some limitations; for example, some countries may have better quality data regarding the number of coronavirus cases and deaths than others.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2763495
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More studies indicate sudden loss of smell and taste means COVID-19 infection

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-loss-validated-covid-symptoms-patients.html

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"Based on our study, if you have smell and taste loss, you are more than 10 times more likely to have COVID-19 infection than other causes of infection. The most common first sign of a COVID-19 infection remains fever, but fatigue and loss of smell and taste follow as other very common initial symptoms," said Carol Yan, MD

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2763622
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WV say Allergen grade HVAC filters can be made in face filters equal to N95 filters

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-team-unmasks-effective-n95-alternatives.html

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Nurkiewicz and his team concluded that air filter material from home furnaces—you know, the ones you forget to change every three months—can effectively obstruct coronavirus particles.

"HVAC furnace filters—especially the higher quality filters that remove allergens and dust mites—can perform well in blocking COVID-19," said Nurkiewicz, chair of Physiology and Pharmacology at the WVU School of Medicine. "We can layer that up and use it with publicly-available 3-D designs for respirator masks that would cover your face. That combination provides significant protection to anyone exposed to COVID-19 droplets."

Travis Goldsmith, iTOX senior research engineer, started the project by exploring ways to rapidly test unconventional filter materials. iTox worked in conjunction with Veronica Cyphert, Julie O'Neil and Dr. Robert Gerbo, of WVU Occupational Medicine, to identify that the air filter material in a 3-D-printed mask worked quite well.
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Two ventilator patients recover from COVID induced “cytokine storm” using combo of
immune suppressive drug Actemra
and IV drip of high dose vitamin C

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-13/coworkers-save-coronavirus-doctor

could be a breakthrough treatment of the sickest of the sick

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Thats good to hear up
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After Australians suggest Ivermectin drug, small trials in Utah and Florida show promise:

https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/head-lice-drug-being-studied-as-possible-coronavirus-treatment/

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Another study conducted by researchers at the University of Utah found that “critically ill patients with lung injury requiring mechanical ventilation may benefit from administration of ivermectin,” ABC News reported.

“We noted a lower mortality and reduced health care resource use in those treated with ivermectin,” wrote lead author Dr. Amit Patel.

And at Broward Health Medical Center in Florida, Dr. Jean-Jacques Rajter has already been using ivermectin in addition to hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc sulfate to treat his COVID-19 patients, according to NBC Miami.

“If we get to these people early, and what I mean by that is if their oxygen requirements are less than 50 percent, I’ve had nearly a 100 percent response rate, they all improve, if they’re on more oxygen than that, then it becomes a little more varied, some people, they don’t respond anymore because they are too far advanced,” Rajter told the outlet.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2763915
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And now there will be a HORDER run on Horse de-wormer Ivermectin. Apple flavor too.

https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-P...B01M1GPOA8&qid=1586894637&sr=8-1


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Dave_J] #2763930
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Originally Posted by Dave_J
And now there will be a HORDER run on Horse de-wormer Ivermectin. Apple flavor too.
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I hear that if you mix that with lemon flavored fish tank cleaner,
its a floral scent to die for.....

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Originally Posted by Dave_J
And now there will be a HORDER run on Horse de-wormer Ivermectin. Apple flavor too.

https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-P...B01M1GPOA8&qid=1586894637&sr=8-1


My wife bought a bunch for her horses after first hearing about it being used as a treatment. A few of her friends bought a bunch for their horses too.

They need it (for the horses) anyways, and don't want to not be able to get it because dumb people bought it for themselves realcrazy


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: hooziewhatsit] #2763934
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Oh yeah, god forbid the people get it instead of the horses. eyes


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Guitar Jones] #2763942
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People will get people grade stuff. Not horse grade stuff.

And it will be in a controlled setting, not turning the knob to select your weight and squeezing it into your mouth laugh2


If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: hooziewhatsit] #2763946
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forbes.com/2020/04/12/rollout-heres-when-states-are-due-to-lift-stay-at-home-orders


Right click on it and open in incognito to avoid their paywall. Article tells (by date and for which state) when you'll be allowed out of the fallout shelters.


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Canadian researcher proposes
COVID-19 virus went from bats to stray dogs to humans...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-evidence-stray-dogs-sars-cov-pandemic.html

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: hooziewhatsit] #2763971
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Originally Posted by hooziewhatsit
People will get people grade stuff. Not horse grade stuff.

And it will be in a controlled setting, not turning the knob to select your weight and squeezing it into your mouth laugh2


People prescribed it from their health care providers will get the Human grade.

The "Panic Mode" people will buy the Horse de-wormer grade and take a guess on what dose to take.

I do have 6 pack's of it here. But I also have my sisters horse here every 6 months for a week or 2.


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As far as I can tell there isn't really any difference between animal grade and human grade for the exact same drug except the packaging and labelling.


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