Now listening to these morons advocate for eliminating the USPS.

You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do?

What? The constitution says explicitly that the government can eliminate the USPS? Chapter and verse please.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads".

Says nothing about maintaining or keeping it, just that they can establish it. This looks like something technology has eclipsed. About all I get is junk mail, that comes under the cheapest money losing rate, I don't think we need to subsidize advertising.

You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do?

Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you).

Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines.

Right. Meanwhile, the airlines spent tens of millions on stock buybacks recently, but get a handout, instead of being told "re-sell all of that stock you bought back."

Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines.

If you plan on a $3000 tax return, it will be $1000. If you figured on paying $500 in tax above what they withheld, it will now be you writing a $2500 check next April.

Not quite. It's a refundable tax credit. We just get the money now, instead of at tax time. Regardless of whether you're planning on getting a refund or writing a check, it lowers your overall tax liability.

During normal times, if you got a $3k refund, the $1200 credit would bump that to $4200, which you would get back at tax time. But, since we get the $1200 now, our refund at tax time goes back to the original $3k.

If you end up owing $500 at tax time, you get the $1200 now, and will still owe the $500 come tax day.

My wife and I won't get anything, but I don't care. We're very lucky to both be working/getting paid during this time. I'd have rather seen more $$ for those who don't make much, for small businesses, and for independent contractors, and for restaurant servers/other tipped employees.

So it doesn't explicitly say they can eliminate it?

Man, sorry the HUGE Moderator pay check knocked you out of this $1200 pay out.

It doesn't even say they have to implement it. Just gives them the power. I don't have a dog in y'alls argument, not really even taking sides, just opining on what i know and observed of it.

British newspaper reports USA NIH gave grants to Wuhan laboratory

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...xperimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

I have not seen this confirmed by another source yet

Sample quote

U.S. government gave $3.7million grant to Wuhan lab at center of coronavirus leak scrutiny that was performing experiments on bats from the caves where the disease is believed to have originated
The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak
The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus
They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan
Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves
The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade

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I think cleanliness and avoiding sick people are the best defense for avoiding the flu.
Hmm, sounds familiar.
I wonder what % of people get the flu vaccine each year. Less sick = less distribution of virus cells.

I don't think it's that simple. The vaccine keeps you from getting sick. It doesn't keep you from transporting the virus around with you and spreading it.

Kevin

I don't think it's that simple. The vaccine keeps you from getting sick. It doesn't keep you from transporting the virus around with you and spreading it.

Kevin