Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 03:09 PM
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Now listening to these morons advocate for eliminating the USPS. You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do?
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 03:51 PM
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Now listening to these morons advocate for eliminating the USPS. You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do? What? The constitution says explicitly that the government can eliminate the USPS? Chapter and verse please.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 04:07 PM
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Now listening to these morons advocate for eliminating the USPS. You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do? What? The constitution says explicitly that the government can eliminate the USPS? Chapter and verse please. Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads". Says nothing about maintaining or keeping it, just that they can establish it. This looks like something technology has eclipsed. About all I get is junk mail, that comes under the cheapest money losing rate, I don't think we need to subsidize advertising.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: 3hundred]
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04/12/20 04:18 PM
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So it doesn't explicitly say they can eliminate it?
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:00 PM
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Now listening to these morons advocate for eliminating the USPS. You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do? What? The constitution says explicitly that the government can eliminate the USPS? Chapter and verse please. Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads". Says nothing about maintaining or keeping it, just that they can establish it. This looks like something technology has eclipsed. About all I get is junk mail, that comes under the cheapest money losing rate, I don't think we need to subsidize advertising. Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you).
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:06 PM
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Now listening to these morons advocate for eliminating the USPS. You mean one of the things explicitly listed in the constitution that the government has the power to do? Nowhere is that stated in the Constitution, or any subsequent amendments.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:25 PM
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Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you). Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines. If you plan on a $3000 tax return, it will be $1000. If you figured on paying $500 in tax above what they withheld, it will now be you writing a $2500 check next April.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:29 PM
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Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you). Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines. Right. Meanwhile, the airlines spent tens of millions on stock buybacks recently, but get a handout, instead of being told "re-sell all of that stock you bought back."
Earning every penny of that moderator paycheck.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:31 PM
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Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you). Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines. Right. Meanwhile, the airlines spent tens of millions on stock buybacks recently, but get a handout, instead of being told "re-sell all of that stock you bought back." I edited my post as you were quoting it. I wish we had a "LIKE" button on here.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:38 PM
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Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you). Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines. If you plan on a $3000 tax return, it will be $1000. If you figured on paying $500 in tax above what they withheld, it will now be you writing a $2500 check next April. Not quite. It's a refundable tax credit. We just get the money now, instead of at tax time. Regardless of whether you're planning on getting a refund or writing a check, it lowers your overall tax liability.During normal times, if you got a $3k refund, the $1200 credit would bump that to $4200, which you would get back at tax time. But, since we get the $1200 now, our refund at tax time goes back to the original $3k. If you end up owing $500 at tax time, you get the $1200 now, and will still owe the $500 come tax day.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 06:51 PM
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Hotels and airlines, though, hand them the cash. Oh, and enjoy your $1,200...or less. (Directed at the deal, not at you). Enjoy that $1200 LOAN on your tax for 2020. You will pay it back come tax time unless you have no tax burden (like drawing Welfare or base Social Security) Its NOT a FREE GRANT like what they are offering the Airlines. If you plan on a $3000 tax return, it will be $1000. If you figured on paying $500 in tax above what they withheld, it will now be you writing a $2500 check next April. Not quite. It's a refundable tax credit. We just get the money now, instead of at tax time. Regardless of whether you're planning on getting a refund or writing a check, it lowers your overall tax liability.During normal times, if you got a $3k refund, the $1200 credit would bump that to $4200, which you would get back at tax time. But, since we get the $1200 now, our refund at tax time goes back to the original $3k. If you end up owing $500 at tax time, you get the $1200 now, and will still owe the $500 come tax day. My wife and I won't get anything, but I don't care. We're very lucky to both be working/getting paid during this time. I'd have rather seen more $$ for those who don't make much, for small businesses, and for independent contractors, and for restaurant servers/other tipped employees.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: not_a_charger]
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04/12/20 07:09 PM
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My wife and I won't get anything, but I don't care. We're very lucky to both be working/getting paid during this time. I'd have rather seen more $$ for those who don't make much, for small businesses, and for independent contractors, and for restaurant servers/other tipped employees.
Man, sorry the HUGE Moderator pay check knocked you out of this $1200 pay out.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 07:18 PM
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So it doesn't explicitly say they can eliminate it? It doesn't even say they have to implement it. Just gives them the power. I don't have a dog in y'alls argument, not really even taking sides, just opining on what i know and observed of it.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 08:09 PM
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My wife and I won't get anything, but I don't care. We're very lucky to both be working/getting paid during this time. I'd have rather seen more $$ for those who don't make much, for small businesses, and for independent contractors, and for restaurant servers/other tipped employees.
Man, sorry the HUGE Moderator pay check knocked you out of this $1200 pay out. It phases out completely at a dual income of $198k a year, so the moderator job must pay really well
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/12/20 08:23 PM
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So it doesn't explicitly say they can eliminate it? It doesn't even say they have to implement it. Just gives them the power. I don't have a dog in y'alls argument, not really even taking sides, just opining on what i know and observed of it. No arguement here, just tired of half truths and inaccuracies.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/13/20 08:44 AM
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British newspaper reports USA NIH gave grants to Wuhan laboratory https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...xperimented-coronavirus-source-bats.htmlI have not seen this confirmed by another source yet Sample quote U.S. government gave $3.7million grant to Wuhan lab at center of coronavirus leak scrutiny that was performing experiments on bats from the caves where the disease is believed to have originated The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/13/20 10:11 AM
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British newspaper reports USA NIH gave grants to Wuhan laboratory https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...xperimented-coronavirus-source-bats.htmlI have not seen this confirmed by another source yet Sample quote U.S. government gave $3.7million grant to Wuhan lab at center of coronavirus leak scrutiny that was performing experiments on bats from the caves where the disease is believed to have originated The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade End quote That same lab as of last week still had two job postings looking for PHD level help in studying the transmission of said virus in bats and why it did not seem to infect them. If the posting has since been pulled it's available on archive.org. Way too much coincidence for this. I don't believe it was intentional, but come on, at this point it had to have come from there. I would attribute incompetence before I did malice.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/13/20 10:58 AM
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I think cleanliness and avoiding sick people are the best defense for avoiding the flu. Hmm, sounds familiar. I wonder what % of people get the flu vaccine each year. Less sick = less distribution of virus cells. I don't think it's that simple. The vaccine keeps you from getting sick. It doesn't keep you from transporting the virus around with you and spreading it. Kevin
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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04/13/20 11:20 AM
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I think cleanliness and avoiding sick people are the best defense for avoiding the flu. Hmm, sounds familiar. I wonder what % of people get the flu vaccine each year. Less sick = less distribution of virus cells. I don't think it's that simple. The vaccine keeps you from getting sick. It doesn't keep you from transporting the virus around with you and spreading it. Kevin Uhhhhhhh.......yes it does. Now technically a vaccinated person could touch something with the virus then touch something else and ‘transport’ it that way, but that’s not the point. That same person can’t spread the infection because of anything going on in their body over the course of time. That’s all a critical part of herd immunity.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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I think cleanliness and avoiding sick people are the best defense for avoiding the flu. Hmm, sounds familiar. I wonder what % of people get the flu vaccine each year. Less sick = less distribution of virus cells. I don't think it's that simple. The vaccine keeps you from getting sick. It doesn't keep you from transporting the virus around with you and spreading it. Kevin Technically vaccinated or not one can be a carrier, the % of being a carrier if vaccinated is greatly reduced. Also 25% or so of carriers have no symptoms. Therefore I'll stand behind my original post. People being vaccinated, cleanliness and avoiding sick people are all part of a society reducing chance of pandemic (from whatever malady). \ I feel we're better for all the vaccines children and pets are given. Smallpox, polio, distemper, parvo, rabies are all drastically reduced or even eliminated by vaccines. Good likelihood CV19 will be as well.
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