May be interesting to see when infections in the various US States go to zero if State by State sheltering restrictions are lifted, will borders be tightened up. Once all states have no infections will the Country's external borders be tightened up.
I'm sure there will be States and Countrys with earlier and later dates, what is noit known is if re-infection will be widespread.

Where TB is high in India, Africa and South America COVID-19 will linger and have a high toll.

Nurses are being killed simply for trying to give Polio vaccines, so even if a vaccine becomes available it will be hard to get a 100% wipe out.

The other common coronaviruses

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-common-coronaviruses-highly-seasonal-cases.html

Since COVID-19 hit the news waves, my wife and I have adjusted our behavior to be clean & disinfected dramatically. She works from home, I don't, and I'm at work M-F. Being clean, and disinfected as much as possible, took a lot of planning. We carry out the plan, no exception. Majority of the time it is me, because I come in from the public environment. Typical...I arrive home and go in through the garage, drop my shoes at the door. Step inside, undress, put clothing into washing machine. Go straight to the bathroom and shower. Put on clean clothes. I have some footwear that I use only indoor. That's just me through the door. Other things we do with delivered goods, groceries, etc. It's a process for sure, that takes some time, effort and $. Throughout my day at work, I'm cautious and practice distancing, cleaning and sanitizing a lot. I don't want to contract this crazy virus. But I do all I can not to bring it into our home and my wife get it too. A few threads back, someone wrote how disgusting humans are...its so f'n true. My wife and I will keep our adjusted lifestyle behavior in motion, even when the big threat has passed. Maybe, just maybe we can even dramatically reduce head colds, sinus infection, etc., etc. Good luck and stay healthy.

I'm sure an argument could be made for the Donald being part of the conspiracy. Ya know, maybe they made a deal.

As for the whole idea of biological based economic warfare, it's not the craziest thing I've ever heard and I've watched a lot of James Bond movies. Seems a bit excessive based on how China was already winning the economic fight but never underestimate greed. Only way to tell for sure is when the antidote comes to market and if it was developed by a shell company owned by the Chinese.

COVID-19 may be different and requires a re-think of when a ventilator should be used

Ventilators are overused for Covid-19 patients, doctors say - STAT

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In a letter last week in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, researchers in Germany and Italy said their Covid-19 patients were unlike any others with acute respiratory distress. Their lungs are relatively elastic (“compliant”), a sign of health “in sharp contrast to expectations for severe ARDS.” Their low blood oxygen might result from things that ventilators don’t fix. Such patients need “the lowest possible [air pressure] and gentle ventilation,” they said, arguing against increasing the pressure even if blood oxygen levels remain low. “We need to be patient.”

“We need to ask, are we using ventilators in a way that makes sense for other diseases but not for this one?” Gillick said. “Instead of asking how do we ration a scarce resource, we should be asking how do we best treat this disease?”

Researchers and clinicians on the front lines are trying. In a small study last week in Annals of Intensive Care, physicians who treated Covid-19 patients at two hospitals in China found that the majority of patients needed no more than a nasal cannula. Among the 41% who needed more intense breathing support, none was put on a ventilator right away. Instead, they were given noninvasive devices such as BiPAP; their blood oxygen levels “significantly improved” after an hour or two. (Eventually two of seven needed to be intubated.) The researchers concluded that the more comfortable nasal cannula is just as good as BiPAP and that a middle ground is as safe for Covid-19 patients as quicker use of a ventilator.

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78% maybe feel no symptoms but still spread?

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-coronavirus-dont-symptomshere.html

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A recent study, published in the British Medical Journal, suggested that 78% of people with COVID-19 have no symptoms.

The findings are in line with research from an Italian village at the epicentre of the outbreak showing that 50%-75% were asymptomatic, but represented "a formidable source" of contagion.

A recent Icelandic study also showed that around 50% of those who tested positive to COVID-19 in a large-scale testing exercise were asymptomatic.

Meanwhile, a WHO report found that "80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infections and 5% are critical infections." Though we don't know what proportion of that 80% were purely asymptomatic, or exactly how the cases were counted, it again points to a large majority of cases who are not going into hospital and being tested.
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Pennsylvania Social distancing.

Morons. Taking a cue from Florida.

Pa was actually doing pretty good but this is the stupidest thing to ever do. Our peak week is just starting so they bump up fishing season to start earlier. Before this you would see a few guys fishing the rivers spread way apart doing so. Great way to get out of the house for awhile and be safe. This is idiotic.

i didn't throw anything in the water, therefor, i won't be "fishing" it out.
as of yesterday, all of pa's counties now have covid-19.
i'm SO glad.................

They say there are 6 confirmed cases here...1st was an elderly man in his 70's who has since passed.

Evidently they are trying to track each person's moves and are notifying people if they came in contact with this person. They don't release the persons name or where they were located or have been...

If they weren't at Lowe's or the market I'm good...Today is day 28 of staying home...it got old 26 days ago...

On the upside my home projects are getting caught up...

It was the PA Governor that made the call yesterday out of the blue, to open up Trout season immediately.
So now you can fish...
But State Cops will still give you a $25-$200 fine for violating his Stay-at-Home mandate for driving to & from your fishing spot.

How's that for a conflict of interest, public health... and yet another example of complete mental deficiency.

If I did fish I could probably walk to the lake down the hill. Except it's part of the state park system that is closed. Yes, they do have some entrances to parking areas and hiking trails closed with yellow accident tape type things.

Pondering that for a moment, I don't think the stay at home order is specifically a do not drive order. Ya could probably get that ticket for walking down the sidewalk because not at home.

And here's an example of COVID-19 driven LEO overreach by local cops, and against a former State Trooper, no less.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...irus-restrictions/ar-BB12jHrV?li=BBnbfcL

Has anyone found a site that shows demographics of ill populations (beside the few reported on news)?
On this website is a rust colored map of the united states that rolling over the states gives two interesting stats: cases per 100K and Deaths per 100k. Click-> Map
Cases per 100k appear to be a good indication of states with large population centers (deep South and East Seaboard) save for a few more rural States with unexpectedly high %/100k (Idaho, Tennessee), Unexpected sparsely populated states (Nevada, Colorado, Utah) may be because of the big population centers.
I'm curious and doubt it will be divulged if the high % are attributable to things like church attendance, not distancing, fishing from bridges . We know some high % were influenced by early pockets consisting of nursing homes cruise ship dockings etc.
It's becoming apparent the if a person is unhealthy it's best to stay isolated because if contracted there is a good chance with even lots of resources the outcome may not be good. Less aged/healthy people appear to be poised to ive through it. It's apparent it's going to be get through the surge, put more resources to discovering a vaccine and get it out into a high % of the population.
Infection cure chasing sure seems fruitless to ending this.

New York got infected mainly from Europe, shows RNA analysis of Coronavirus strains

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-coronavirus-nyc-february-europe.html

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“It's very interesting that so far, the majority seem to be coming from Europe, and this is in part I think because there was a focus on stopping travel from China," she said.

The findings also tie in with a spate of mysterious pneumonia cases that New York physicians were treating before large scale testing began in the city, she added.

Heguy and her team determined the viral sequences of 75 samples taken from the nasal swabs of patients at Tisch Hospital, NYU Winthrop Hospital and NYU Langone Hospital Brooklyn.

All organisms mutate over time, but so-called RNA viruses such as SARS-CoV-2 introduce errors in each cycle of their replication.

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So in other words it get's weaker with each mutation?

Not necessarily. It just changes with each mutation. It's as likely to get weaker as it is to get stronger. But, if it gets too strong and kills too quickly, it will die out by itself as it doesn't have time to spread to more people.

It could even mutate to get even more infectious. But as we stay home and limit its spread, that means there are fewer jumps and fewer chances to mutate to make it stronger or weaker.

We just need everyone to stay home.

Israeli company claims their special cells helped 6 critically ill patients already on ventilators

https://www.jpost.com/health-scienc...nt-survival-rate-preliminary-data-624058

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Pluristem’s PLX cells are “allogeneic mesenchymal-like cells that have immunomodulatory properties,” meaning they induce the immune system’s natural regulatory T cells and M2 macrophages, the company explained in a previous release. The result could be the reversal of dangerous overactivation of the immune system. This would likely reduce the fatal symptoms of pneumonia and pneumonitis (general inflammation of lung tissue).

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