This virus reminds me when I was in NAM,,, being attacked and damn near being over run by the enemy...
luckly I made it but many guys didnt make it out that week... this doesnt seen any different

Is the USA doing the right things?

Four months from now we will be able to compare Sweden to Norway and Denmark
and see whether “flattening the curve” makes much difference

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-coronavirus-nordics-strategies.html

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-vaccine-elicits-strong-response-sars-cov-.html

I say make it available to any elderly person that wants to volunteer

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/ijl-spc040620.php

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He also proposed a strategy for repurposing known geroprotectors such as
rapamycin, nicotinamide riboside, nicotinamide mononucleotide, metformin, and other drugs
with the known safety profile for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection.
The scientist analyzed the prior clinical studies of everolimus (RAD001) in healthy elderly, and previous evidence showing paradoxical immunopotentiation effects of rapamycin and proposed additional clinical trials for these molecules in the healthy elderly population.
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rapamycin Is a fascinating drug.

Easter Island is one of the most isolated places on Earth.
The natives there call their island “Rapa”.
rapamycin was an antibiotic found in fungus there.
It has since been found to have uses far beyond fighting bacteria.

https://www.cleveland.com/coronavir..._medium=social&utm_campaign=cleve_sf

I can't wait for all of the stupids in America to read this and react with, "See, it was an overreaction, it wasn't bad."

This site, previously posted allows one to track data on the national and by clicking on drop box "United States of America" to change to the state of interest. https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
I checked California today because of a news article that CA just sent 500 respirators to other states in need. Sure enough they have flattened the curve. Did early social distancing posted by the state encourage enough people to run and hide help?
I knoiw I've been limiting venturing out (retired) and when I have, did notice the absence on many people on roads/stores/anyplace.
Nor cal has been spared large amounts of infected people and most seem to be located in the metro areas.

UNC-CH new drug looks promising

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-antiviral-drug-clinical-trials-covid-.html

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We are amazed at the ability of EIDD-1931 and -2801 to inhibit all tested coronaviruses and the potential for oral treatment of COVID-19. This work shows the importance of ongoing National Institutes of Health (NIH) support for collaborative research to develop antivirals for all pandemic viruses, not just coronaviruses" said Andrea Pruijssers, the lead antiviral scientist in the Denison Lab at VUMC.

Denison was senior author of a December 2019 study that first reported that EIDD-1931 blocked the replication of a broad spectrum of coronaviruses.

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I typed this up in response to a comment about what if the world still only had the ability to text message... no smart phones.

When I went & googled up some SARS research...
I was a little surprised at where it led.. dates & locations right off the SARS wiki page.
No one really knows how many people Chinese just up & disappeared in 03...
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It is interesting that no new SARS(also Corona) outbreaks occurred after 2004... That is, UNTIL after Chinese "Scientists" finally found the origin bat cave, in remote Yunnan China, in Dec 2017... The bats were then "studied" by scientists from the "Wuhan Institute of Virology" 1000miles away... just 2 short years later... Voila.. an upgraded version of Corona on steroids breaks out in Wuhan, and is blamed on the same horeshoe bats, still living 1000miles away in Yunnan, 😳

Hmmm... The timing does make you wonder... 13yrs of nothing... Then the carrier bats are found in 2017 & then "studied 1000+ miles away", & only 2yrs later(Dec '19), an outbreak occurred at the "location of study" Wuhan, & NOT at the location where the bats actually live. 🤔
The world will likely never know what they did inside those boarders... either time. 😔

There's a couple here now.

It isn't the "stupids" as you refer to, it is also rational thinking people that don't take matters at face value. Look at who benefits when more people are reliant on government.

Isn't it the government that made the projections and the stoop-ids (intentional) that complied with shelter orders that shaved the top off the curve. Other unfortunates (stoop-ids and naughts) lie in beds, while more and more are interred (albeit some temporarily) as yet others show up at er doors and intake tents gasping for breath. This is not done and there is some indication lung damage is principal cause of demise and heart failure is also suspect, then there is other reports of re-infection. This is a bug to be reckoned with.
I'm pretty sure our small group would all like to get through this along with their loved ones. Lets all be safe and thankful there is info out there to help guide us through the dark days ahead.

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/06/hydroxychloroquine-update-for-april-6

CN: still no good evidence that hydroxychoroquine works or helps. The plural of anecdotes is not data.

What keeps nagging me is all the virus research (hepatitis, HIV, Sars) until recently, or maybe still, fail to eradicate the infection from the host. I recall living in fear every time I underwent chemo, as my blood counts went to zero taking away immunity I took anti virals and anti bacterial agents. iirc there are these T cells that do battle and after I was done with my stem cell transplant there was a blood component called CD4 that had to get up to some value affording me the ability to walk down the street and not run away from babys and be super anal about cleanliness (really been helping me recently). In fact guys, whens the last time you wiped down the buckle end and tail end of your belts with alcohol or washed your hands after ordering a meal at a restaurant (remember that?). After awhile I had to have all my baby shots again and even a few new ones for shingles etc.
Seems our bodies do not make certain antibodies, unless we get the illness and we live through the infection, OR a vaccine is cooked up to give us immunity. Best results are to have vaccines before illness sets in. Vaccines are not medicine.
This virus is no different than any other viral disease. All the medicine in the world will not stop the virus, it will only help the host become more comfortable as the virus ravages their body. I liken this to adding octane boosters to fuel when all the patient needs is lead.
Much research is currently being done on Broad Spectrum Antiviral Agents that are safe to use on humans.
It's going to take time and this virus will keep popping it's ugly head up until a vaccine arrives.

And there is absolutely no evidence it hurts either... thus right to try still applies.

I don't think I've ever witnessed so many people actually hoping for a medicine to fail.
Newscasters, politicians, and a portion of the general public... all actively wanting it to fail.
It's unbelievable...

I for one hope when given in combo with a Z-pac, it works as described.
If, it doesn't... then try something else.

I hope they find something that works(anything) and I don't care who suggests it.

Did you read any or all of that article? Pretty much all of it was saying that there is no true evidence that it helps (yet), and definite evidence that it hurts some people with certain issues, which also makes up most of the people in the ICUs.



That's basically saying that it helped people that weren't too far gone. Would they have survived without the HCQ treatment? Maybe, maybe not. That's why we study things. We don't want to give people heart arrhythmias for no reason.

And we're not hoping that it's going to fail. We want to make sure it actually works, and doesn't cause (more) harm at the same time.

And, God forbid stop looking for something that really works.

No, it's the stupids.

Reliant on government? Better not cash that $1,200 check, or collect unemployment while you work side jobs.

when you think about it Americans are pretty grubby individuals. One girl I know works at Sams Club. After being there for several years she went to school so she could Be an Audiologist at Sams. Last week she watched a guy lick his fingers three times getting money
out of his wallet to pay. Another girl I know works as a Secretary at a body shop. From where here desk is she can hear whether people use the sink to wash their hands after doing their business. She was shocked to the amount of guys that don’t. Now the idiots are wearing rubber gloves and just throwing them on the ground after removal. Almost as bad as cigarette smokers.