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ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue #2759551 04/03/20 04:38 PM 04/03/20 04:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 215 portland, ct S Since1822 OP enthusiast
Since1822 OP enthusiast S Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 215 portland, ct	Anyone have an issue with the hub bolts on an ATI damper hub being too long and contacting the stock timing chain cover? It is the 917470E damper for stock pulleys. The bolts for the hub seem to be slightly long on the back side.. Never ends lol

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: Since1822] #2759559 04/03/20 05:10 PM 04/03/20 05:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,725 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,725 A collage of whims	I think I saw something about that in either HotRod magazine, or HotRod Garage or maybe Engine Masters (the latter two streaming). Sorry I can't narrow it down better.

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: Since1822] #2759681 04/03/20 11:14 PM 04/03/20 11:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota Azzkikrcuda top fuel
Azzkikrcuda top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota	I have the same damper and had the same problem. Had to grind the bolts flush with the back side. Check your pulley bolts also, very little clearance if they stick thru the back. The only Carbs I care about are under the hood!

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #2759683 04/03/20 11:23 PM 04/03/20 11:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,144 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,144 PA.	Summit offers different sized bolts for this application if you don't want to grind them. They also offer the torx bit if you don't have one. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: pittsburghracer] #2759684 04/03/20 11:25 PM 04/03/20 11:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,144 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,144 PA.	They also offer the shim that goes behind the damper to space it out if anyone needs that. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: Since1822] #2759699 04/04/20 03:16 AM 04/04/20 03:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,264 New York, USA Chargerfan68 pro stock
Chargerfan68 pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,264 New York, USA	Originally Posted by Since1822 Anyone have an issue with the hub bolts on an ATI damper hub being too long and contacting the stock timing chain cover? It is the 917470E damper for stock pulleys. The bolts for the hub seem to be slightly long on the back side.. Never ends lol Yes. I had that exact problem. I had to grind the bolts so they were flush. The just contacted the corner of the raised area that houses the seal. Finding zero crank endplay after the motor was fully assembled with damper on is how it was discovered. Could have been a disaster if not found. 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: Since1822] #2759707 04/04/20 05:41 AM 04/04/20 05:41 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 764 NW Pa. KD800X super stock
KD800X super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 764 NW Pa.	Had the same problem a few years ago after I had my ATI damper rebuilt. I called them and they sent me shorter bolts.

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: pittsburghracer] #2759759 04/04/20 10:12 AM 04/04/20 10:12 AM
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TRENDZ master T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI	Originally Posted by pittsburghracer Summit offers different sized bolts for this application if you don't want to grind them. They also offer the torx bit if you don't have one. Not sure if this is the same situation, but I recently was working on a brand x engine. The bolts for the ATI damper were separate. They offered the drive bit for sale with the bolts. I have torx bits. Just not the correct torx bits. Had to buy the bit after the fact. The bolts require a torx40+, not the same as a t40, or a tamper proof t40. None of my tool trucks stock that bit, but all can special order them. So, if the tool is offered, get it. "use it 'till it breaks, replace as needed"

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: TRENDZ] #2759760 04/04/20 10:16 AM 04/04/20 10:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,144 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,144 PA.	Originally Posted by TRENDZ Originally Posted by pittsburghracer Summit offers different sized bolts for this application if you don't want to grind them. They also offer the torx bit if you don't have one. Not sure if this is the same situation, but I recently was working on a brand x engine. The bolts for the ATI damper were separate. They offered the drive bit for sale with the bolts. I have torx bits. Just not the correct torx bits. Had to buy the bit after the fact. The bolts require a torx40+, not the same as a t40, or a tamper proof t40. None of my tool trucks stock that bit, but all can special order them. So, if the tool is offered, get it. Ya I ordered two of them years ago just in case. Lol. Don’t forget to locktite those bolts 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: pittsburghracer] #2759762 04/04/20 10:24 AM 04/04/20 10:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI T TRENDZ master
TRENDZ master T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI	Info... "use it 'till it breaks, replace as needed"

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: TRENDZ] #2759797 04/04/20 12:18 PM 04/04/20 12:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,307 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,307 north of coder	with one not knowing the difference unless you have the regular and plus fasteners side by side, is there a way to tell by looking which you have ? in other words, how can you tell at a glance which bit to use on a particular fastener ?

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: moparx] #2759811 04/04/20 12:55 PM 04/04/20 12:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI T TRENDZ master
TRENDZ master T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI	Image of both... "use it 'till it breaks, replace as needed"

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: TRENDZ] #2760293 04/05/20 09:45 AM 04/05/20 09:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,923 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,923 NC	I didn't know that about the various Torx fasteners/bit. I learn something new everyday. 1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: 440Jim] #2760302 04/05/20 10:00 AM 04/05/20 10:00 AM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio J jlatessa pro stock
jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio	Damn, just when I thought my toolbox was full! I may need another storage unit.... Joe

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: TRENDZ] #2760356 04/05/20 12:19 PM 04/05/20 12:19 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,307 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,307 north of coder	Originally Posted by TRENDZ Image of both... thanks for that blown up pic ! [us old, blind guys appreciate BIG pictures and diagrams ! ] at what torx size do these plus bits come into play ? size 20 and larger ? smaller than that ? the 20 size in the torx is kind of tough to see for me if it would be a square or round shouldered. i like a good excuse to buy new tools !

Re: ATI Balancer/Timing Cover Issue [Re: moparx] #2760629 04/06/20 07:54 AM 04/06/20 07:54 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 215 portland, ct S Since1822 OP enthusiast
Since1822 OP enthusiast S Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 215 portland, ct	Thanks for the replies everyone. Apparently ATI makes a spacer as well and that is what we went with. Going to use the Doty pulley and everything should line up with no rubbing.

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