Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/29/20 11:00 PM
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...But I’ll also bet that Fauci does respect what Baden says and visa versa .... Perhaps much like Engineers and Architects I rather doubt they apply the principals of medicine in the same vein and the respect would be applied to the field they specialize. One need only look at their respective audience. One it's a Jury or TV Audience, the other the public (their boss).
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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IMHO, the next Nobel Peace Prize needs to go to ALL the front line care givers WORLDWIDE.
I think I know one person that thinks he should get it but I'll reserve my opinion on that.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 12:06 AM
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...But I’ll also bet that Fauci does respect what Baden says and visa versa .... Perhaps much like Engineers and Architects I rather doubt they apply the principals of medicine in the same vein and the respect would be applied to the field they specialize. One need only look at their respective audience. One it's a Jury or TV Audience, the other the public (their boss). I didn’t hear this from the Baden interview but how many autopsies do you think he’s done in a Cv death in the past month ? I’ll bet a few. Remember his job is determining cause of death in THOUSANDS of cases ! BOTH of these guys along with that female Dr on the Cv team ... they sure sound like a competent group to me Something else I saw that KILLED the narrative of many networks... was Fauci proudly saying that Trump has not even COME CLOSE to overruling him
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 01:24 AM
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" obesity [8%]"
I couldn't find that statistic in the link, and seems very low, unless it's from 1933?
All to mean to me, nearly everyone over 65 is likely in the high risk group. You're correct that I did not put the right percentage in there. The figures are from a different link, which I have since somehow lost. Here's what the WHO says: Italy Obesity: 58.5% (2016) United States Obesity: 67.9% (2016) https://www.who.int/gho/ncd/risk_factors/overweight/en/ Obesity isn't the main factor, as far as why Italy infection rate & mortality is so high. They've been saying from the start, that Italy has an older population that the US... especially in the infected regions. They also still enjoy having those large weekend family gatherings (like I remember as a kid)... that aren't as prevalent in the US anymore. Toss in the double tap cheek kissing, & the fact that in Jan a lot of Chinese from Wuhan flew into Italy... (Chinese have a lot of fashion operations in Italy... they want to use a "Made in Italy" label) It's little wonder that it spread quickly, as people there went about there normal routine for weeks, before they even realized it was in the country. With the exception of the large cities, the US has a lot more wide open spaces, with more of the population living further apart. I can't even see my neighbors, & I'm less than 3miles from the edge of a city. Of course I still think some of it spread via the mail here in the US. When it 1st hit our State... it slowly started spreading outwards from Phila & Pittsburgh But jumped to Harrisburg, right in the middle of the State within just a few days. Why Harrisburg.... Because a few years ago they decided to hub nearly all of the States mail into Harrisburg every night. If I mail a letter to my neighbor,,, It goes from my box to the York PO, then to Harrisburg PO, then back to York PO & finally into my neighbors mailbox. They no longer separate out local mail at local PO. (Except a few small ones that will still do it if you drop it off at their office)FedEx & "UPS also have big operations in Harrisburg, next to the Airport..
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 06:49 AM
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Discussion of when to ease restrictions https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/29...ible-paths-to-end-coronavirus-lockdowns/Sample quote Some of the recommendations from Gottlieb and Rivers could be easier to put in place. They suggest, for instance, that the public should be urged to start wearing fabric masks in public — not paper surgical masks that are already in short supply in hospitals, but masks that could be made at home or bought online. “We did not and would not recommend the use of proper personal protective equipment” for the public,” Rivers said. But she noted that because people can transmit SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, before they develop symptoms, having them wear masks when they are out in public might slow spread of the disease. “We don’t think they’re going to be very effective at keeping healthy people healthy, but what they would be better at is preventing people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic from spreading. They’re more useful for source control,” she said. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 08:53 AM
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About 20% have 2 different viruses at the same time. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-covid-patients-infected-respiratory-viruses.htmlSample quote Brown and his colleagues analyzed 562 people recently tested for COVID-19 at Stanford Health Care's Marc and Laura Andreessen Emergency Department. Forty-nine of those people tested positive for infection with SARS-CoV-2. Of the 562 people, 517 were also tested for the presence of other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza A and B, respiratory syncytial virus, rhinovirus, adenovirus and several types of pneumonia. One hundred and twenty seven received a positive result for one of these other respiratory viruses. Of the people tested for both SARS-CoV-2 and other respiratory viruses, eleven people—or about 22% of the 49 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 8.7% of the 127 people with other respiratory viruses—were found to be co-infected with both kinds of viruses. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 09:08 AM
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Oh my ... rum needs to PUT DOWN the 151 OK, I stand corrected. Perhaps I live too far north to know but I've personally never heard lung disease described as a blockage and/or suffocation. Suppose the lack of oxygen feels like being suffocated? Thankfully I wouldn't know. I'll admit to not being totally up on all the modern graybeard malady nomenclature and did not realize all those pay-for-your-bad-habits-later diseases have been lumped into a happy acronym. Blocked did not register with me at all but there it is right in the title; Chronic OBSTRUCTIVE Pulmonary Disease, which apparently now includes emphysema. Who knew. Either way, we can all agree that if you got some form of lung disease already and get this COVID-19 deal you're up Ye Olde Creek without a paddle. It's hard to be a pedantic know-it-all sometimes. Every once in a while you take one on the chin and have to go look stuff up. We now return to our regularly scheduled communicable disease banter.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 10:11 AM
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Hey, we all are equally ignorant on the subject, just some more then others, and most here are here to learn something IMO, and I do everyday.
Having my written comments peer reviewed are useful, not always agreed with, but read none the less.
PS to be clear, I define "ignorant" as lack of knowledge, "stupidity" has a different meaning, and is of little use in discussions, its often inflammatory/escalating and normally not a personal choice, IMO.
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 02:50 PM
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Times are surreal. Today, with deaths just above 2,000, this is first time top officials have announced the COVID deaths could reach in the US 200,000 to 100,000 deaths, and if kept to 100K, "that would be a very good job". And the stock market is up 500+ points. We have truly lost our way. I thought human life was valued higher.
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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It is a good job compared to china, where, although "official" deaths are 16,000 Unofficially, there are 21 million less cell phones in that country (every chinese is required to carry a cell phone). So, as mentioned, it is a good job.........anyway, sorry to interrupt, back to your agenda..........
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 03:28 PM
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Times are surreal. Today, with deaths just above 2,000, this is first time top officials have announced the COVID deaths could reach in the US 200,000 to 100,000 deaths, and if kept to 100K, "that would be a very good job". And the stock market is up 500+ points. We have truly lost our way. I thought human life was valued higher. In context... That response was in reference to whether or not he thought we were going to see the 2.2million deaths some of the doom&gloom say'ers were predicting. Where it ends up we will know in a few years... but hopefully it is much lower. Just like all the early predictions of death and destruction, were way off the mark for SARS & Swine Flu(h1n1) That latter has continued to kill more & more people every yr since the '09 pandemic... but no one cares anymore.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 03:28 PM
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Times are surreal. .... the stock market is up 500+ points..... You chose the word I've been using since this started and the gyrations began. This all seems more like a movie script. In the old days stake holders would seed the claim when they were getting ready to sell. I don't know how many more bumps will be in the road before all the oil leaks from the shocks. The oil can is empty and the buzzards are gathering.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/30/20 03:42 PM
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Times are surreal. Today, with deaths just above 2,000, this is first time top officials have announced the COVID deaths could reach in the US 200,000 to 100,000 deaths, and if kept to 100K, "that would be a very good job". And the stock market is up 500+ points. We have truly lost our way. I thought human life was valued higher. In context... That response was in reference to whether or not he thought we were going to see the 2.2million deaths some of the doom&gloom say'ers were predicting. I guess if one is a "numbers guy" its a good job.. What next, there were only 5000 lynchings, or only 35,000 traffic deaths, only 6,000,000 gassings, etc? These are people, some really good folk, with families, that die a horrible death, often all alone, etc I don't hear any sincere "caring", just "as long a it doesn't effect me" thinking. We know one definitive way to stop this in its tracks, but The DJ and everybody's wallet is apparently more important. Prepare to explain this in-action to your maker, sometime in the future, or what a "good job" you did.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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