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Unemployment because of the virus... #2757434
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Was told 2 days ago that you become unemployed because of it. And most states unemployment is no where near what ya would bring home if you worked. That a extra 600 a week will be added to what unemployment would other wise paid you...
Now I thought this was b.s. so went on line and and in the questions and answers from the passed bill. It does say just that...
Anyone else know more about this? I'd really pimento know 100% if true or not.
Our company shut down because of lack of parts from a supplier that is on lockdown because of it

Not trying to stir up a mess. Just wanting to know if true


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: toplescuda] #2757442
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No experience with this, sorry. I wasn't aware of this. shock

Under the new stimulus package, workers will be paid an additional $600 per week on top of what they would normally receive for up to four months until July 31. Once that additional federal assistance is exhausted, they will continue to receive their normal benefit amount, administered by their state.

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For how many people would that be a pay raise? work


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: SattyNoCar] #2757447
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I think unemployment is typically about half of what you originally made?

An additional $600/week is another $2400/month.

If you made $5k/month, and UE gave you half of that at $2500/month, then the additional would bring you back to essentially your original income ($4900).

So if you made less than $2400x2=>$4800/month, you would end up making more (assuming EU is half of your original pay, if that changes, then the other equation changes too).


Honestly, I'm not worried about it. We need people to stay home to beat the virus, but we also need them to not lose their housing and be able to eat in the meantime.


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: hooziewhatsit] #2757453
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Some are crying because the now unemployed are making more. Then the ones working. On the other hand. I didn't asked for this. I am forced to not come to work.....i still have bill,s that I have to pay that I would normally pay if let me go do my job..
But being that mo. Unemployment don't pay crap (I get around 200 a week my job pays 13.50 hr) that's a huge change over a month or so.or however this last


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: toplescuda] #2757460
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Don't feel bad, I'm triple risk AND essential personnel. The hoarders decimated our inventory of product so we are back on 12 days on, 2 off with the expectation that we will volunteer to come in on 1 of our 2 days off. I'm just hoping the crap doesn't spread through our plant.

AFAIK, Unemployment pays a set amount, regardless of what you make. There is extra added for dependents, but it's still not a get rich quick thing.


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: slantzilla] #2757462
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Yep here in mo. I think the max was 300. Or possibly 320. Can't remember. I just know that I don't get anywhere that much
And you are right about not mattering how much a hr you make...as the setups here at our plant make close to 24 hr. The 320 before tax is no where near their normal take home pay


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: toplescuda] #2757467
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Here are some figures from PA's official state Unemployment Compensation page.
I added the $600 Fed portion to what you get from the State of PA.

Part of the delay the night before it passed, was because some of the Senators with common sense, wanted to limit the State + Fed package "Total" Unemployment to no more than 100% of what you earned working. They used SC examples , a State that pays out a lot less... They should have used PA examples drive the point home much better. In the end they caved and everyone gets the full $600/wk... even someone that only worked say 1 day a week per his own choice... like a house wife or retiree, high school or college student.

Examples below of various wages > PA+Fed Unemployment they will get
Pa uses your wages per quarter. (13wks)... they go back 5 quarters & use the highest earning one from Q1-Q4.

PA + FED Unemployment payments under Rescue Bill
Some part timers & low wage jobs are gonna to get a big raise.
PA Unemployment rates shown are right from PA tables.

_$7.25hr ; $290wk > PA UC $149 + Fed UC $600 = $749
$10.00hr ; $400wk > PA UC $205 + Fed UC $600 = $805
$15.00hr ; $600wk > PA UC $307 + Fed UC $600 = $907
$20.00hr ; $800wk > PA UC $409 + Fed UC $600 = $1009
$25.00hr ; $1000wk> PA UC $511 + Fed UC $600 = $1111
$27.96hr ; $1118wk> PA UC $572*+ Fed UC $600 = $1172 *PA MAX payout ($572)
$29.30hr ; $1172wk> PA UC $572*+ Fed UC $600 = $1172 *UC break even point
$30.00hr ; $1200wk> PA UC $572*+ Fed UC $600 = $1172 *UC a little short

If you are a small employer that recently laid off lower skilled workers near the bottom of the pay scale, or part timers... GOOD LUCK trying to get them to come back to work for the next 4 months.

PA also pays an additional few bucks a week for each kid you have... figures above are base UC with no kids.

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: Runner2go] #2757468
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Not sure how it where you are. But here if...ya don't come back when your to. You have quit. And you don't get unemployment if you quit


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: toplescuda] #2757471
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Originally Posted by toplescuda
Not sure how it where you are. But here if...ya don't come back when your to. You have quit. And you don't get unemployment if you quit

Good.

I'm not sure how that works here.... shruggy
I was only ever laid off once back in 1986, and eventually found another job long b4 it would have run out.

I looked up those figures above in order to send to my brother-in-law...
He was still working up until the Governor put businesses in his County into full shut down last week.

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: Runner2go] #2757484
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Unemployment is about a third of my take home, $600 added a week isn't going to make up the difference, but it will probably make up the difference between being able to pay all my bills and not.

Long before all this happened I pretty much ended all my unnecessary bills, like cable, land line and such, as well as paid off all my debt aside from the house. I have some rainy day savings, but not as much as I'd like. Fortunately, I am an essential employee in an essential industry so I don't foresee pay issues even though we are only doing emergency work for the nonce. No OT to speak of during this situation, but I don't live such that OT is required to maintain my lifestyle. Any OT I get pretty much goes into the Cambridge or savings.

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: Sniper] #2757537
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I've been laid off numerous times, I was off 5 months last year. Ohio gives you about 1/2 of your take home, but it maxes out at $500. You get another $50 for each child. Then the State and Fed tax that money in April. You also lose your health insurance, you can get Cobra, but it can be $500 a month. They are starting to offer lower cost plans again, but the deductible is $7500. The key to survival is to not spend any money and don't go to the doctor.

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: cgall] #2757546
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Tomorrow is the last day of the month, with the President recommending staying home another month, I expect massive layoffs tomorrow.

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: cgall] #2757702
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Originally Posted by cgall
Tomorrow is the last day of the month, with the President recommending staying home another month, I expect massive layoffs tomorrow.


Many places are paying employees until around April 15th-18th so there will be a huge jump in unemployment then. At the current number of 3.3 million the allotted $2.5 billion will run out long before July 31st.


I hope people who started working a cash register at kohls a month ago appreciate their big $600 per month raise when they see a cashier at a supermarket dealing with hordes of people daily and making a lot less than $600 a week.


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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
Originally Posted by cgall
Tomorrow is the last day of the month, with the President recommending staying home another month, I expect massive layoffs tomorrow.


Many places are paying employees until around April 15th-18th so there will be a huge jump in unemployment then. At the current number of 3.3 million the allotted $2.5 billion will run out long before July 31st.


I hope people who started working a cash register at kohls a month ago appreciate their big $600 per month raise when they see a cashier at a supermarket dealing with hordes of people daily and making a lot less than $600 a week.


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: DirectSubjection] #2757796
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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
I hope people who started working a cash register at kohls a month ago appreciate their big $600 per month raise when they see a cashier at a supermarket dealing with hordes of people daily and making a lot less than $600 a week.

This right here is going to create a lot of hard feelings, and create yet another point of contention to further the divide in the nation. Which was likely the goal of those who opposed limiting total State & Fed Unemployment Compensation to 100% of your working pay rate.

Everyone wants to help folks...
But if 2 people work together on cash registers, &1 is still working for $300/wk, & the other is laid off making $700wk
How do you think things are going to go if they ever end up working together again.... work
Especially if they are women. whistling stirthepot

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: Runner2go] #2757814
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My wife works for the school district as an instructor. Basically a step below a teacher. She is paid hourly unlike teachers who are salaried. With school closed for who knows how long, she has zero income. The school district will fire anyone who attempts to file for unemployment. So what does she do. One year to go before she can retire. It sucks.

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: AeroMonte] #2757823
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Originally Posted by AeroMonte
My wife works for the school district as an instructor. Basically a step below a teacher. She is paid hourly unlike teachers who are salaried. With school closed for who knows how long, she has zero income. The school district will fire anyone who attempts to file for unemployment. So what does she do. One year to go before she can retire. It sucks.

They can do that? eek

My wife works for a school district & they left some people go this week when everything was extended out to the end of April. Teachers are still employed and not happy, because they are going to have to start teaching classes from home. The wife is still working because she's in the tech department, trying to make all the remote access systems work. But the bus drivers are gone... as are some assistants.(so far) Maint & cleaning crews are still working.

But still... if the a school is not going to pay you, I don't see how they can block you from unemployment.
That's really messed up if they can... worthy of a call to one of the local TV news "On your side" investigators.
I'm sure they would love to expose something like that....

Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: Runner2go] #2757879
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Without getting political, Missouri is a right to work state which means you can be terminated without notice for any reason. I have been fired from a job because of a comment I made about the boss, then he disputed my unemployment claim which held it up by three weeks. By that time I was working someplace else. So yes the school district can do that. I'm hoping that the extenuating circumstances will sway their policy but not putting much faith in that.

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Another case of hiding behind what is "legal" vs what is right.

It ain't over folks.


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Re: Unemployment because of the virus... [Re: AeroMonte] #2757968
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Originally Posted by AeroMonte
Without getting political, Missouri is a right to work state which means you can be terminated without notice for any reason. I have been fired from a job because of a comment I made about the boss, then he disputed my unemployment claim which held it up by three weeks. By that time I was working someplace else. So yes the school district can do that. I'm hoping that the extenuating circumstances will sway their policy but not putting much faith in that.


In this instance it is not much different than an employment at will state.

I thought there was a provision in the stimulus package that made it specifically illegal to fire someone for collecting UI?

In discussing UI with friends in other locations it is amazing the differences state by state.

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