IN red, stating the obvious.

Its not FOOD RATIONING that is the issue here, its too many people in one place not far enough apart to be safe, hence my spacing things out possible suggestions.

If people don't get that, and understand that, they will just peaked the curve higher, and mother nature will settle this problem.

Without closely studying the reversed proactive decisions made above , I have to give credit that some action in good faith was taken, regardless, rather then doing nothing, spouting personal opinions or simply passing the buck.

Reminds of the water fountain? scene in "one flew over the cuckoos Nest", "at least he tried".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPrfpDDlMX8

My son in law as mentioned awhile back here is immune suppressed and had symptoms and under Dr;s had a COVID test on Monday 3/16.

The hospital called today and said Labquest is real backed on their testing results and they should have results any day now.

Did I hear today also the new soon to be released "15 Minute test" will only take 3 days?

My son in law appears to be on the mend and has been quarantined at home under Dr care, the entire time.

Coming soon A new Americka without thee " un's ". I ate Kroger brand " fruit cocktail " in a can the other day. Said product of China, Yummy.
Now you know why me and mate smoke weed all day and eat Cheetos while in our pajamas watching cartoons all day under the lockdown. Moved the mattress to the living room floor of the double wide. We paint our finger and toenails pink, green, and black.
The Telie tubbies toons are really rad.. Vintage Mickey Mouse is cool. Shonen Knife rules.
We laugh so hard we have to wear diapers cause we wee all the time. Outside in the city, nervous millennials roam the street talking and laughing loud. Some have children. They are on wine and MeDikAtioN. They are prevented from group social, eating and drinking, snorting coke, and fornacation. A nervous laugh as the world ends.
What U guy's doing ?

Holy crap. That Dr said what I was already thinking. We aren't getting over this anytime soon. 12-18 months? It's gonna be at least a year till 1) a great many of us get it and it sorts out the weak or 2) there's a vaccine which if its like the current flu or pneumonia vaccines then it'll help but wont put a stop to it. And how long will it take to make and give to not just 330 million people in our country but 6 BILLION people worldwide?

Wife and I went to a local village market in our neighborhood. Kind of an uppity market that always stocked with fancy baked goods, expensive prepared foods and high end liquor and all the usually stuff like a small grocery store - in fact they just tripled their size the past year. MANY of the shelves were bare. There was bread, milk and eggs and meat counter was still stocked well but NO toiletries, no paper products, no peanut butter, no pastas... Spooky. Hows that gonna work for months.

Where did you get “FOOD RATIONING” (your caps) ??? We are talking about grocery store restrictions. Please stay on-topic.

Went to the local Wally World close to the shop for that traditional Rott chicken and I was surprised!

Well stocked (everything considered) but no paper products ...

Thinking of planting a larger plot of groceries, starting a clutch of rabbits, getting another big dog be ready to share where we can. I believe that people have not really taken grasp of the reality. For us this means we will do a little more of what we have been and less of the luxuries we did. I wonder how long before am music comes back, maybe even uhf/tv and the horror - land lines. I may be stretching it a bit yet going through this should certainly have people taking stock of what is really important.

Some have been ready for a long time, ive neighbors who still have dial up internet. Luckly im on a lightly used state hwy and have fiber because the internet2 runs along this way.

We still use short wave radios, and the slicker one can sent wifi packets a long long way.

Am radio is all I can get here. Maybe 1 fm station.

Its nice to sit and watch the ISS fly over. Ive a garden in my grow box ready to plant the second week of may, laying hens that lay every day, cattle that love to reproduce and alot of big game and pheasants to eat.

When the Arab Oil embargo 1st hit, there was a bad panic. Then after some time it calmed down wrt rationing gas by tag #.
People just "adapted" to a "New" norm at that time, "Gas wasn't plentiful/unlimited 100% of the time".
Had to change their "spoiled" habits of "Cheap Gas-Any Time".

Long read

http://nautil.us/issue/83/intelligence/how-genetic-mutations-turned-the-coronavirus-deadly

Sample quote

Bedford is now trying to assist with the next stages in containing and combating the COVID-19 pandemic. He and his team run a project called Nexstrain that tracks multiple pathogens, including flu, tuberculosis, West Nile virus, and now SARS-CoV-2. As of March 20, the phylogenetic tree for SARS-CoV-2 included 855 genome sequences of different strains. The genetic sequences catalogued in Nexstrain and other genomic databases will allow infectious disease specialists to monitor any worrisome changes to the virus.

So far, there is no sign that the virus is becoming any more deadly or infectious—although neither is it becoming any less so. Near-stasis is typical for a new human pathogen. From an evolutionary perspective, SARS-CoV-2 is already doing a great job of reproducing itself. It’s therefore feeling little evolutionary pressure to change. The viruses will just keep doing their thing until they are contained, or until they have killed their hosts.
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Lot of fear mongering here.

Within 30 days there will be a standardized treatment to limit death outcome for the majority of patients. The fear now is lack of treatment. Once they have a grip on that, patients will be sent home to avoid the over crowding that is seen currently. The only people being tested in the past 2 weeks were extreme cases that were symptomatic and had other health concerns, respiratory/diabetes/etc. Out of those, less than 2% passed. Understand this subset already had significant pre-existing conditions prior. The vasty majority of the country will have no issue with this virus if contracted. If you want to put yourself in a better position to deal with it, get your weight under control, exercise and get some sunlight. The people who aren't concerned, are those that have taken care of themselves over the years. It's not difficult. Don't smoke, limit alcohol, don't overeat and get some form of exercise. While you look at all of the negative outcomes, notice the athletes that have it and have had ZERO side effects? Actors that we know of, ZERO side effects. Try to recognize some of the positive.

It will mutate over the coming years. You'll get a vaccine that may or may not limit the impact, just like the flu is currently. A treatment protocol will be put in place and only the most vulnerable (who should be taking precautions) are likely to have severe impact. Even that group will be an incredibly small percentage. I'm not trying to downplay it, but the level of reaction is based on lack of agreed upon treatment. Once that happens, we need to get back to work. I argue we should be back to work anyway for health adults and hyper isolate the vulnerable populations so wed on't blow up the entire economy.

Is there a source for this information?

No. It's the logical progression of treatment. Thank god the FDA semi got out of the way during this which is allowing doctors to try various treatments. There are doctors trying multiple combinations with success. As those are used in other cities it will become the treatment protocol for those showing symptoms. Will be a combo of Azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine and zinc most likely. Most of this is recycled info from France and Korea.

I agree that within a few weeks there will be treatments that shorten the days of illness from the untreated 21 days to less than maybe 7 days.

The deadly part of COVID-19 are those patients (mostly over age 65 with another medical condition)
who go into ARDS,
and then +80% die even through they are on a ventilator.

Maybe a statin drug like Crestor
or cytokine modifier like Colchicine
or another drug yet unknown
will reduce that +80% death rate.

This has already been the most expensive epidemic of modern times,
and paid for with borrowed money.

When countries eventually default on their debts in the future,
there will be huge health consequences to that.

WOW... a lot of doctors on this site... at 1st i thought i clicked on the AMA website

Sweden takes a different course....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ockdown-sweden-keeps-calm-and-carries-on

Sample quote
Tegnell argues that because in Sweden there are almost no stay-at-home parents, closing schools would have knocked out at least a quarter of doctors and nurses, crippling the health service. By pushing children out into society, it might even have increased the threat to the elderly, particularly if they were called upon to babysit.

He points out that Sweden has almost no households where the over-70s live with younger adults and children.

Tegnell even questions whether stopping the progress of the virus is desirable. “We are just trying to slow it, because this disease will never go away. If you manage, like South Korea, to get rid of it, even they say that they count on it coming back. Stopping it might even be negative, because you would have a pent-up possible spread of the disease, and then once you open the gates, there is a possibility that there would be an even worse outcome.”

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Amazing isn’t it?

At some point I felt I clicked back on page two of this thread. I believe there is a new understanding nationwide based on science that we're looking at a battle.
I check a resource regularly, Ckick <- that leads me to believe that California's sheltering is making a difference.
California holds approximately 12% of the nations population and has an infection rate of about 4 1/2%, approximately 1/3 the national avarage. The numbers are possibly skewed by fewer/pending test results but not enough to substantially change the %'s. On the three occasions I've ventured out since the stay/distance directives have emerged I have noticed less people about and also more respect of others. On the map on the link it's graphically shown that several counties have no cases, further down the page are graphs that shed hope the curve is flattening here. The tide is not turned, because each day's numbers are added onto the previous day becoming a larger number of sick, soon more and more recoveries will truly bring the curve down. Repeat this across the nation and only then will we recover. Should we not stay the course these numbers will slowly then quickly revert to a steep piling on.