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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756251
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https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/85596

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Evidence-Based Prevention

Aggressively identifying and treating people with vitamin D deficiency is one potential strategy to reduce the risk of COVID-19. As outlined in the BMJ review, regularly taking oral vitamin D3 mitigates infection, although the optimal oral dose is debatable. Bolus doses do not appear to provide benefit against infection, possibly through a dysregulation of vitamin D metabolism.

There may be a simple yet effective alternative. Since exposing the whole body to bright sunlight can provide long-lasting and rapid correction of deficiency, this may provide a critical boost to host immune defenses. Lacking definitive research, any risk of exposing the body to sunshine while sheltering in place is clearly outweighed by the risk of COVID-19.
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Anyone desiring to supplement their vit d should know to take it with their meal containing the most fat. To get into ones system the fitamin needs to bond to fat cells.
It's sobering to think that the US at this time has the most reported infected with the malady.

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Originally Posted by srt

It's sobering to think that the US at this time has the most reported infected with the malady.


The US is testing more, and some of the other countries are suppressing their numbers.

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" Lacking definitive research, any risk of exposing the body to sunshine while sheltering in place is clearly outweighed by the risk of COVID-19." work

That does not make a clear suggestion which is less risky IMO.

In that the risk of simply walking into the sunshine with not a person in sight, increases one's risk IMO at least an order of magnitude less then the risk of singing on one's balcony with all your neighbors accompanying at night without a mask in sight, and I have yet to hear any objections to that behavior, other then mine.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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There is an IQ required to comprehend long term cause and effect.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/average-iq-by-country/

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"There is an IQ required to comprehend long term cause and effect"

Spit it out, we are screwed.

The Deaths will soon exceed the Dow Jones?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2756369
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The best way I've heard it is

"For this virus to affect you, it must first FIND you... Hide from it, Stay inside!"


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2756371
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Therefore at about day 10 the south korea plot makes a turn for the better.
What occurred at about day 10 for usa?
Important to keep in mind the bottom index of the graph is not a calendar date, rather days from 100 case dx and is different for each country plotted.
While interesting its not scientific as each country determines their own criteria for if a person has the disease. I also know some areas are not reporting cases either by choice or lack of tests or testing facilities. It would be a shame for anyone to wantonly push reopening areas based on the data that is available at this time.

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Originally Posted by srt
Therefore at about day 10 the south korea plot makes a turn for the better.
What occurred at about day 10 for usa?
Important to keep in mind the bottom index of the graph is not a calendar date, rather days from 100 case dx and is different for each country plotted.
While interesting its not scientific as each country determines their own criteria for if a person has the disease. I also know some areas are not reporting cases either by choice or lack of tests or testing facilities. It would be a shame for anyone to wantonly push reopening areas based on the data that is available at this time.


Here in the NYC area, there was a bit of good news earlier in the week. Based on modeling and more testing results, there was an expectation to see the number of cases in the city itself to double every two days. However, allegedly due to the increase of restrictive stay-at-home measures, the time spread turned out to be a little over 4 days. Still doubled though!

Its insane how much forceful denial there is out there about this situation. Why? What is there to gain by recklessly ignoring facts? No one gets a reward for blindly going down with a sinking ship.


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Originally Posted by jcc
I remember American Chicken pox parties well, I never attended, and never got Chicken Pox or Shingles.


i never attended any "parties" but got chicken pox as a kid. they were not FUN !
as to the vitamin d, i take a 10,000mg dose daily, prescribed by my one doc. have been doing that for years, as well as eat other prescribed vitamins that are supposedly better than the over the counter kind.
i also self inject b12.

anyone remember "Vitamin Flintheart" ? biggrin
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Like the flu it will "find" us all until there's a vaccine. Cant hide from it forever. Then, as all the talking heads on the news channels are saying it will become a choice between possible death from the virus or possible death from starvation and homelessness. I feel slightly fortunate but I cant survive financially for years. I mean how many of us can. I'm lucky I just fixed up a rental house in a stable middle class neighborhood that I own free and clear but it would SUCK to have to hunker down in it forever and burn through the cash we saved for retirement and let our nice house go back to the city/state because we cant pay the property taxes. I know thats worst case but I've always lived but the motto, plan for the worst and hope for the best.

And when/if theres a vaccine, how long will that take to get into the arm of 350 million people? Years? Decades? One doctor said this could be a regular thing every 5-10 years. Some chinse person decides to eat another animal they shouldn't and it starts all over. Did you read what those fools eat? Bats, mongoose like creatures, deer pee pee's, cobra's, etc. One investigative show was showing a glass front retail store that was filled 4ft deep with turtles in a death struggle trying to get to the top of the pile. What savages.


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"Its insane how much forceful denial there is out there about this situation. Why? What is there to gain by recklessly ignoring facts? No one gets a reward for blindly going down with a sinking ship."

Using the Titanic for the historical lesson, the "gain" is you get a less crowded lifeboat, while the others drown.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Did you see the dumb ass from Missouri that was under quarantine because his daughter was positive who took his other daughter to school for a father daughter dance? Now thanks to him the schools are closed.

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"What savages."

You have never seen a mass production American chicken factory I assume? work


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Pertinent thought of the day?

The world is apparently mainly made up of followers.

Lately we are prodded into very frequent hand washing.

We are scolded to only cough into our elbows.

We are shamed into not shaking hands and that is to be replaced by elbow bumping.

When was the last time anybody expressively washed their elbow?


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: second 70] #2756485
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Originally Posted by second 70
Did you see the dumb ass from Missouri that was under quarantine because his daughter was positive who took his other daughter to school for a father daughter dance? Now thanks to him the schools are closed.


Um, no, The schools are closed because there are 285 confirmed positive tests from all over the metro area (as of this morning). They didn't all catch it from this one girl. The schools would be closed anyway regardless of what that one clown did.


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Originally Posted by jcc
"Its insane how much forceful denial there is out there about this situation. Why? What is there to gain by recklessly ignoring facts? No one gets a reward for blindly going down with a sinking ship."

Using the Titanic for the historical lesson, the "gain" is you get a less crowded lifeboat, while the others drown.



Regardless of where it came from, everyone in the world has either already been or is going to be directly affected by this stupid virus because it clearly does not care if you are a tree hugging liberal, bible thumping conservative or rural Chinese peasant.

Those who chose to ignore facts do so at their own peril. up



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Both China and Africa have “wet markets” where wild live or freshly killed animals are sold with little supervision.

SARS disease in 2002 happened when a virus originally in Bats jumped to wild Civet Cats and then to humans in a China wet market.

Around 1890 to 1920 HIV-2 virus jumped from Sooty Mangabey monkeys to humans,
and HIV-1 virus jumped from Chimpanzees to humans in African wet markets.

The wet markets of China and Africa are a danger to everyone on earth.

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Ahhh, the dynamics of a pandemic. I see Patient "0" is believed to be fingered. I don't feel that knowing who it is, or what immediately happened is going to help anything. There are a lot of things that various peoples of the world feel is responsible for killing people. Even our old cars. There has been things in the past, there are now, including things other than cv19. Lots of people die from all sorts of natural and some made concoctions. Heck tobacco pot and alcohol kill many many more than cv19 will.
What is most important now is to remove this from the grips of politics and place it at the feet of the medical people, making sure they have the tools and equipment to deal with it.
Watching any of the biased news that's available there is all sorts of blame game going on. I really don't care how we got here as much as what we as a people need to do to get the attention back on the problem at hand.
Living in a county with no reported cv19, I sure don't want restrictions lifted. There is no industry here, nor any private business that needs to open iif it has the potential to get anyone sick, or potentially die.
Where's the news on where is the specialized equipment and where is the unidentified miracle drug?
Restore sense and the rest falls in line.

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Originally Posted by srt
Ahhh, the dynamics of a pandemic. I see Patient "0" is believed to be fingered. I don't feel that knowing who it is, or what immediately happened is going to help anything. There are a lot of things that various peoples of the world feel is responsible for killing people. Even our old cars. There has been things in the past, there are now, including things other than cv19. Lots of people die from all sorts of natural and some made concoctions. Heck tobacco pot and alcohol kill many many more than cv19 will.
What is most important now is to remove this from the grips of politics and place it at the feet of the medical people, making sure they have the tools and equipment to deal with it.
Watching any of the biased news that's available there is all sorts of blame game going on. I really don't care how we got here as much as what we as a people need to do to get the attention back on the problem at hand.
Living in a county with no reported cv19, I sure don't want restrictions lifted. There is no industry here, nor any private business that needs to open iif it has the potential to get anyone sick, or potentially die.
Where's the news on where is the specialized equipment and where is the unidentified miracle drug?
Restore sense and the rest falls in line.


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That reminds me, I need to go wash my elbows. eyes

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