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Vehicle title and ownership paperwork #2756347
03/26/20 11:36 PM
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I am debating with an Ole Sr Citizen retired and living in Floridah.
If one buys a car and does not register said vehicle for any reason even with the bill of sale and any other documents normally required by your DMV,,must you still apply for a new ownership? If not driven on public roads like a long resto or just track use can physical damage and theft be obtained without registering with your local DMV? I say nothing is needed and does not require informing DMV and the old sr cit you have to register.
What are the rules in your state or in a state like Conn that taxes you by what you have......... work catfight


Did I make any sence?? wink


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Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: hemi-itis] #2756349
03/26/20 11:47 PM
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Hamtramck, PA
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You, he, whoever....

It should still be transferred, even as non-op (non-operational) for a project car.

Lower fee, no plates needed & if the car bought was stolen, the sooner it is registered, the sooner the buyer knows & the better chance of getting the money back.

Never, ever leave a car in the last owners name.

If they report it stolen out of spite or sellers remorse or whatever, not worth it.

Register ASAP & get it done.

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: hemi-itis] #2756350
03/26/20 11:47 PM
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I know for 100% sure that you can insure any vehicle. I bought a 70 VG Ute off of a well known member here a decade ago and owned it for 7 years. I never attained a title, just the shipping invoice from Australia to the U.S. I drove it for years without ever registering it or buying plates (tags in the slower states) biggrin I had it insured the entire time. Now I didn't every have an accident or ticket with the car, so who knows what would have happened then... shruggy

Last edited by Rhinodart; 03/26/20 11:48 PM.

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Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Rhinodart] #2756354
03/26/20 11:54 PM
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FORGIVE the OP ... he’s .....

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Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756355
03/26/20 11:56 PM
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Where’s that 63 HELLvedere grille ... for that Chebby ??!!

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756358
03/27/20 12:06 AM
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Let’s set the stage correct definition of the words ..... IMO

OWNERSHIP paperwork ? .... the actual title

REGISTRATION..... the process of getting legal license plates

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756362
03/27/20 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Let’s set the stage correct definition of the words ..... IMO

OWNERSHIP paperwork ? .... the actual title

REGISTRATION..... the process of getting legal license plates



Good post Doc!!!! Damn......right on the money. No BS......

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2756367
03/27/20 12:27 AM
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Thank you PacMan ....

Whatever happened to the OP old guy ?

He must have DOZED OFF after that extensive hard fought post !

But REALLY... we like to ZING each other ....

but I’m way more successful than he is ! spank beer penguin

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: hemi-itis] #2756373
03/27/20 12:39 AM
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You should transfer the title. here in Mich they give us X days to transfer it or you get a penalty to pay.. ypu
wont get plates until its transferred
wave

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2756374
03/27/20 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
You should transfer the title. here in Mich they give us X days to transfer it or you get a penalty to pay.. ypu
wont get plates until its transferred
wave


But P ... if you leave the date and amount paid OPEN (like many person to person transactions) .. “they” never know !

Let em EAT CAKE !

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756387
03/27/20 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
You should transfer the title. here in Mich they give us X days to transfer it or you get a penalty to pay.. ypu
wont get plates until its transferred
wave


But P ... if you leave the date and amount paid OPEN (like many person to person transactions) .. “they” never know !

Let em EAT CAKE !



Not transferring the title into your name after purchasing a vehicle and selling it to the next person on an open title is called title skipping and is illegal.

In a title state if you have a vehicle and the title is never put in your name, legally you don't own it.

It would be foolish to drive a car that isn't legally in your own name even if you think you have insurance on it.
If the insurance company figures out that it isn't in your name, odds are they will deny any claim on it since you don't legally own the car.
It's one thing if you just bought the car, but you are legally required to transfer the title and put legally registered plates on it withing 30 days.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2756424
03/27/20 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
You should transfer the title. here in Mich they give us X days to transfer it or you get a penalty to pay.. ypu
wont get plates until its transferred
wave


But P ... if you leave the date and amount paid OPEN (like many person to person transactions) .. “they” never know !

Let em EAT CAKE !



Not transferring the title into your name after purchasing a vehicle and selling it to the next person on an open title is called title skipping and is illegal.

In a title state if you have a vehicle and the title is never put in your name, legally you don't own it.

It would be foolish to drive a car that isn't legally in your own name even if you think you have insurance on it.
If the insurance company figures out that it isn't in your name, odds are they will deny any claim on it since you don't legally own the car.
It's one thing if you just bought the car, but you are legally required to transfer the title and put legally registered plates on it withing 30 days.


As Popeye once said: "You rolls your dice, you takes your chances"... biggrin


The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

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Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756442
03/27/20 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
You should transfer the title. here in Mich they give us X days to transfer it or you get a penalty to pay.. ypu
wont get plates until its transferred
wave


But P ... if you leave the date and amount paid OPEN (like many person to person transactions) .. “they” never know !

Let em EAT CAKE !


I did that once.. they taxed me 50% of the car value,, try it and take your chance
wave

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2756443
03/27/20 11:22 AM
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Is the OP the guy who professionally tows cars? Seemingly trying to skirt the system?

What happens when the tow truck drivers rig is on the other tow truck? Make a great selfie.



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My family is a bunch of Fruits and Vegetables and many cant tell us apart. EAT ME!
Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Mr. Potatohead] #2756447
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Yes he is the tow truck driver
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Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2756487
03/27/20 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
You should transfer the title. here in Mich they give us X days to transfer it or you get a penalty to pay.. ypu
wont get plates until its transferred
wave


But P ... if you leave the date and amount paid OPEN (like many person to person transactions) .. “they” never know !

Let em EAT CAKE !



Not transferring the title into your name after purchasing a vehicle and selling it to the next person on an open title is called title skipping and is illegal.

In a title state if you have a vehicle and the title is never put in your name, legally you don't own it.

It would be foolish to drive a car that isn't legally in your own name even if you think you have insurance on it.
If the insurance company figures out that it isn't in your name, odds are they will deny any claim on it since you don't legally own the car.
It's one thing if you just bought the car, but you are legally required to transfer the title and put legally registered plates on it withing 30 days.


But SNK eek .... going ONE MPH over the speed limit is illegal too !

So how many times have you been an OUTLAW with your Viper or SRT8 300 ? tsk grin

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Mr. Potatohead] #2756488
03/27/20 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
Is the OP the guy who professionally tows cars? Seemingly trying to skirt the system?

What happens when the tow truck drivers rig is on the other tow truck? Make a great selfie.




pOtO .... skirt the system ? Perish that thought !

jsta how many times have you been an OUTLAW... today ??!!

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756513
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I'm pretty sure by now that most States have some time requirement for a buyer to re-title & register a vehicle.
Some may be rather lax in enforcing that date.
Some will be pretty aggressive, as it's revenue for them.
Title is proof of ownership, which would seem - but may not be - a requirement to be paid for an insurance claim.
Registering in your name would be a pretty logical follow-up from a DMV perspective.
For off-road use, it varies: some have "non-op", some have fees & tags for off-road...
Also:
Some if not all States have time limits for out-of-state plates if you've moved to a new State; I avoided that on a CA car I took with me when I lived in NJ for a couple years.
It was a toy, didn't see daily use, and never had an LEO stop me while driving it.
But on the PA vehicle I bought for a DD I went ahead with NJ title & "tags" (license plates) rather than risk a battle.

Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2756516
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Just writing checks for my monthly bills, maybe a crime for some.

Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
Is the OP the guy who professionally tows cars? Seemingly trying to skirt the system?

What happens when the tow truck drivers rig is on the other tow truck? Make a great selfie.




pOtO .... skirt the system ? Perish that thought !

jsta how many times have you been an OUTLAW... today ??!!


My family is a bunch of Fruits and Vegetables and many cant tell us apart. EAT ME!
Re: Vehicle title and ownership paperwork [Re: Mr. Potatohead] #2756524
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As long as those checks aren’t made of rubber ....yur being a good boy ... pity

Now about that OP .. I talked to him earlier and he’s as busy as a beaver .....

He says his toe biz is booming and can’t get ON LINE now ..., I did say he’s getting hammer here !

Me thimks he’s HIDING ! .... ZING !

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