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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756057
03/25/20 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 360view
In the ray of hope department....

The Wall Street Journal in their Opinion section has an article Wednesday by two doctors who lay out a case that COVID-19 is far less deadly than previous estimates, like Korea’s 0.6%.
They make the case that far more people have been infected and felt little or no symptoms.
They crunch numbers that show that the case fatality rate (CFR) might be even less than 0.1%

If this is true the epidemic will end sooner too,
as a large number of
“quietly recovered and now immune”
people will not be passing on the virus to others,
and further slowing an infection rate
that may also being reduced by springtime seasonal high humidity.


I have been thinking this as well. I had a cold in late January that had me feeling really wiped out. I rarely ever get colds. It has been years since I had one like that.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: srt] #2756073
03/26/20 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by srt
anyone self medicating would do well to write on their forearm with a sharpie the meds they are taking should the emt's show up and someone is unresponsive



Great advice... anyone on heart meds and blood thinners should carry a list with them. The er doc was so happy my wife kept a daily list when her a#$hole cardiologists would not answer the phone when she was in the er. They have protocols but will adjust if they know what and how much you are taking. He helped her find some new docs and things are pretty good now, getting off the meds slowly. Make the list, could save your life.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 4406bbl] #2756096
03/26/20 02:19 AM
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A local bank discovered a teller tested positive for COVO19 last Thursday after returning from a cruise, they only went public with the info today after being outed by social media. Employees were advised to keep silent or face repercussions. flame


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: BloFish] #2756098
03/26/20 02:55 AM
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For those interested, Sirius XM has channel 121 for virus tank 24/7 - open for deactivated radios too.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: DirectSubjection] #2756113
03/26/20 08:50 AM
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Any body know iif the ups pack and ship stores are open and taking items needing packing in order to ship? Does everything have to be boxed up when it comes in?

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: srt] #2756118
03/26/20 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by srt
Any body know iif the ups pack and ship stores are open and taking items needing packing in order to ship? Does everything have to be boxed up when it comes in?


Ours are still open and considered part of essential businesses. I would call your local one to confirm.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 4406bbl] #2756125
03/26/20 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
Originally Posted by srt
anyone self medicating would do well to write on their forearm with a sharpie the meds they are taking should the emt's show up and someone is unresponsive



Great advice... anyone on heart meds and blood thinners should carry a list with them. The er doc was so happy my wife kept a daily list when her a#$hole cardiologists would not answer the phone when she was in the er. They have protocols but will adjust if they know what and how much you are taking. He helped her find some new docs and things are pretty good now, getting off the meds slowly. Make the list, could save your life.


My wife has a folder with all my medical records in it and I carry a list of all the meds I take and she
has a copy of them also... the folder came in handy when we were down in Texas for vacation(a couple
of months)... I had a stroke down there
wave

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756146
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The next things sorely needed are quick and cheap blood tests to find out who has antibodies in their blood that now makes them immune to COVID-19.

British companies are working to bring such tests to market.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: DirectSubjection] #2756151
03/26/20 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
For those interested, Sirius XM has channel 121 for virus tank 24/7 - open for deactivated radios too.



Light , easy listening


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756153
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756159
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as this dies down eventually, what are the odds of a severe upswing next flue season in the fall ?
beer

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: moparx] #2756166
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Originally Posted by moparx
as this dies down eventually, what are the odds of a severe upswing next flue season in the fall ?

beer


Odds are better IMO that all thermometers sold after COVID will be required to be online models, so any outbreak can be spotted and tracked almost real time.

Sure would have saved a lot of time and likely lives with this pandemic.

I am all about personal privacy (long gone), but I don't think these new thermometers share any personal data other the approx location of the user, not sure.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: moparx] #2756168
03/26/20 12:29 PM
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I believe it best to not buy into the predictions and make any lifestyle changes and become unwittingly part of the data set.
Reading news that presents predictions about the virus dying down as the weather warms at this time is hopeful, yet not anything more than a guess. The southern hemisphere may likely be behind the "pandemic curve" because there simply are not as many world wide travelers that are residents of those continents. Until we see a substantial drop in new infections in the northern hemisphere can that hypotheses be proven. A lot about this virus is hypotheses right now other than it's contagious, it's rampant, it's deadly, more so for the infirm, there is no cure or vaccine. Other proven hypotheses deal with how it ts transmitted, etc. To make predictions on how virus behaves over a 12 month cycle may give hope, yet we should not get lulled into a false sense of security.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2756175
03/26/20 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jcc
Odds are better IMO that all thermometers sold after COVID will be required to be online models, so any outbreak can be spotted and tracked almost real time.

Sure would have saved a lot of time and likely lives with this pandemic.

I am all about personal privacy (long gone), but I don't think these new thermometers share any personal data other the approx location of the user, not sure.


You do realize that just because you have a fever does not mean you have COVID-19, right? Most diseases and infections cause a fever, even the common cold. It just means your body is fighting an infection.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: wingman] #2756181
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An item that is beginning to become a huge issue is the recovery rate is slow. Right now in the US reported are slightly less than 70k dx with cv19, with ~1,100 deaths, ~ 620 cured. There are a lot of people sick at home and in hospitals, a growing number needing respirators and the length of time a patient requires a respirator is up to 3 weeks. There will be more and more people dx and a growing number will need hospitalization and also respirators. These are the facts facing doctors. It's a tragedy that our elected and appointed officials and the press too often grasp and mold the reality of this pandemic to their need. I don't want rose colored glasses and expect facts and truth from those making the news and using the media to play their perversions.


Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: wingman] #2756183
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Originally Posted by wingman
Originally Posted by jcc
Odds are better IMO that all thermometers sold after COVID will be required to be online models, so any outbreak can be spotted and tracked almost real time.

Sure would have saved a lot of time and likely lives with this pandemic.

I am all about personal privacy (long gone), but I don't think these new thermometers share any personal data other the approx location of the user, not sure.


You do realize that just because you have a fever does not mean you have COVID-19, right? Most diseases and infections cause a fever, even the common cold. It just means your body is fighting an infection.


Yes I do, and ANYBODY who has a fever right now, needs to be away from me.

Got any better early warning world wide better low cost reliable early warning suggestions?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: not_a_charger] #2756195
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I'm hoping this doesn't contravene the "no politics" rule. if a moderator perceive that it does, please feel free to remove it.

This is a surprising article from a Canadian publication that is generally quite supportive of communist China: Despite the opening paragraph, it doesn't really speak to politics directly, but as I stated above.....

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/when-will-china-be-held-accountable-for-coronavirus/







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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756205
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I am not yet convinced the “Controlled Voluntary Infection”
described in the below article is a good idea,
but it also should not be dismissed out of hand....

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/2...-could-turn-the-tide-of-the-wuhan-virus/

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756208
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Originally Posted by 360view
I am not yet convinced the “Controlled Voluntary Infection”
described in the below article is a good idea,
but it also should not be dismissed out of hand....

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/2...-could-turn-the-tide-of-the-wuhan-virus/



Or American Shingles is no big thing kinda of thinking? eek

I remember American Chicken pox parties well, I never attended, and never got Chicken Pox or Shingles.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2756212
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Sample quote

Early evidence from Iceland, a country with a very strong organization for wide testing within the population, suggests that as many as 50 percent of infections are almost completely asymptomatic. Most of the rest are relatively minor. In fact, Iceland’s figures, 648 cases and two attributed deaths, give a death rate of 0.3 percent. As population testing becomes more widespread elsewhere in the world, we will find a greater and greater proportion of cases where infections have already occurred and caused only mild effects. In fact, as time goes on, this will become generally truer too, because most infections tend to decrease in virulence as an epidemic progresses.

End quote

From
https://spectator.us/deadly-coronavirus-still-far-clear-covid-19/

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