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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2755600
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My daughter and her family live on Florida east coast north of WPB in a nice gated community on the golf course. NY I believe a week ago issued a stay at home order to reduce the spread of COVID while they deal with this crises.

The Fla governor has in the past few days required all air passengers disembarking from NY areas self quarantine if they have arrived in apst two weeks.
No idea how that can be enforced.

So my daughter and family are self quarantined because of her husbands predicament, told me today, they can't even take walk on the sidewalk because of all the families that recently arrived with kids, judging from all the license plates staying with relatives from NY, NJ, Conn, etc.

Florida might be the next NY in this crisis. eek


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2755609
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Thats too bad. Sucks for the whole east coast.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2755650
03/24/20 11:37 PM
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Our county (along with 7 neighboring counties) called for shelter-in-place earlier than almost anyone in the US. California's governor followed a couple of days later. We were holed up in our homes, businesses shuttered, watching in horror and amazement at people cramming together for spring break in Florida and continuing life as usual elsewhere. Slowly, other states are making the same moves, but the delay -- even measured in days -- was fatal. I am holed up - have been for a couple of weeks. I don't go out the front door, only relax in the back yard. I stocked up as soon as the news came out of China. I told my kids not to tell their friends because I didn't want their parents to think I was crazy. I've been leaving supplies on my porch for friends who are caught without the basics. I agree that California is a wacky place with some stupid policies, but we got this one right and hope everyone else can follow as quickly as possible.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2755652
03/24/20 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jcc
Florida might be the next NY in this crisis. eek


Unfortunately, everywhere is going to be 'the next New York". fan

Though many of the major cities down there have closed down on their own, Florida is bananas for not having ordered people state wide to stay home yet. So many elderly people down there, its awful to think what the "numbers" could look like in the coming weeks. Apparently the Governor based the decision of not going to state-wide lock down on the idea that there are "unknown risks of extended confinement". This is despite the now obvious "known risk" of not enforcing social distancing being death. Makes sense.

Week two of isolation in our house seems to be going OK. We are doing pretty well with food and supplies though at some point soon we are going to need to stock up on a few perishables. Kids have gotten used to home school and in fact, our oldest has surprised us at how well he has adapted to it. My wife keeps saying that she is busier than ever trying to keep up with everything at work. She has been using a program called Zoom for her work meetings but we also used it on Sunday to video chat with our friends and our youngest sees his friends for recess with it. Works well, it helps to see people.

Working on my car a bunch but seems by the time I am able to get out there I'm wiped out from corralling the kids all day. Wife has had endless, hours-long meetings for two days so I have been on solo duty a lot. Its nice to be in the garage by myself though whether I am accomplishing things or not.

We are still seeing groups of our neighbors in close proximity walking by our house. Some are friends who we care about but it's hard to wrap your head around the idea that at this point they are still letting their kids play with other families etc. One of them seemed fairly adamant she would be back to work in the city (NYC) by the 13th. OK!

Today I spoke with someone I know fairly well on the phone who has the virus. He is a lawyer and is often in court in a busy urban area so guess he was at a higher risk of exposure. Didn't get into too much detail and he did not need to be hospitalized but said he was really sick last week, to the point of not being able to return phone calls. (do lawyers ever return calls?) Thankfully he is feeling better now and seems to be through the worst of it. Scary to think that a relatively young (50s) and healthy person would become really sick so fast but that's really what makes this so serious.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: RMCHRGR] #2755706
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Originally Posted by RMCHRGR
Originally Posted by jcc
Florida might be the next NY in this crisis. eek


Unfortunately, everywhere is going to be 'the next New York". fan

.............that's really what makes this so serious.


Might be nice if we could point to at least one municipality and say, "they over reacted".

Another useful quality of leadership beyond the two I have already touched on,"courage", in courage to make the tough responsible decisions.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2755712
03/25/20 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jcc


Another useful quality of leadership beyond the two I have already touched on,"courage", in courage to make the tough responsible decisions.


I'm proud that our leadership has it.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2755713
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Originally Posted by jcc
Summit just lowered their graduated discount points I suspect because of a downturn of sales caused by COVID?


FWIW, summit just retracted their last increased discounts. bawling

Guess good times are here again for Summit.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2755729
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Originally Posted by jcc
Might be nice if we could point to at least one municipality and say, "they over reacted".

Another useful quality of leadership beyond the two I have already touched on,"courage", in courage to make the tough responsible decisions.



Leadership is exactly that. Sadly, we are seeing the result of what happens when it's been abdicated at the highest levels. tsk

Thankfully there are some actual leaders out there that are taking it upon themselves to put lives ahead of money and/or beliefs.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: RMCHRGR] #2755745
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Locally, our county shares a Public Health Official covering a 3 county area. He's recommended and the board of supervisors have adopted some very stringent restrictions that had closed businesses, parks, public areas and gatherings in all three counties. Many activities are prohibited and the result is only 2 dx of cv19 in the three counties thus far. It's noted there have been many tests with negative results. Seems, thus far, people have been smart (ish) and the restrictions implemented have a positive effect on prevention.
Also it should be noted that for nor, statewide efforts have "flattened the curve". California is a large state with many areas concetrated with people. Fortunately, as for the pandemic, large swathes of CA are open space and sparsely populated.
One unfortunate thing is that this past weekend large groups came to these rural areas to "escape" the metro areas. Most were sent home and there is high hopes they took any contamination with them. It's stunts like that that expose an ugly side of society that has the unwarranted effect of perpetuating this malady. Lunacy abounds in the populace and only time will tell just how bad it gets.
I'll be in the group that has absolutely no intention of packing any church or attending any gathering by Easter Sunday.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2755811
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Existing drug tPA may help most severely ill COVID-19 patients,
Say MIT and U of Colorado

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-repurposing-drug-blood-clots-stopgap.html

Sample quote

Three hospitals in Massachusetts and Colorado are developing plans to test this approach in severely ill Covid-19 patients. The drug, a protein called tissue plasminogen activator (tPA), is commonly given to heart attack and stroke victims. The approach is based on emerging data from China and Italy that Covid-19 patients have a profound disorder of blood clotting that is contributing to their respiratory failure.

"If this were to work, which I hope it will, it could potentially be scaled up very quickly, because every hospital already has it in their pharmacy," says Michael Yaffe, a David H. Koch Professor of Science at MIT. "We don't have to make a new drug, and we don't have to do the same kind of testing that you would have to do

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2755868
03/25/20 03:06 PM
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Just tried to buy hand soap for the office at Alberstons and they still don't have any. Big sections of aisles are cleaned out.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Neil] #2755874
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I dont understand it... why buy so much soap and TP.. are they using these products for something else
that is related to the Corona 19... and they were buying out TP before all this shruggy
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Neil] #2755878
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While having been in the cardiac icu 3 times for severe PE-s and currently fighting a bad clot in one leg, I need to dig a hole and hide.

I am well stocked with lovinox? Might have 25 or better shots here and a ton of warfarin? I think id up my level a bit if I caught it, but I cant use the clot buster from a prior unrelated issue.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2755888
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anyone self medicating would do well to write on their forearm with a sharpie the meds they are taking should the emt's show up and someone is unresponsive

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2755891
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In the ray of hope department....

The Wall Street Journal in their Opinion section has an article Wednesday by two doctors who lay out a case that COVID-19 is far less deadly than previous estimates, like Korea’s 0.6%.
They make the case that far more people have been infected and felt little or no symptoms.
They crunch numbers that show that the case fatality rate (CFR) might be even less than 0.1%

If this is true the epidemic will end sooner too,
as a large number of
“quietly recovered and now immune”
people will not be passing on the virus to others,
and further slowing an infection rate
that may also being reduced by springtime seasonal high humidity.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: srt] #2755897
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Originally Posted by srt
anyone self medicating would do well to write on their forearm with a sharpie the meds they are taking should the emt's show up and someone is unresponsive


I can test my own inr at home and have next to little faith in our emt-s to the hospital director, If id listed to the "experts" id of been dead long ago and my wife would be bed ridden and have a feeding tube because our health care system is so "standardized" what may work for 99 people doesnt always work on the 100th and the system is ok with that.

Dog pile all you want for my comments but before this virus how many her posted over zero progress with issues with there health care provider? Many.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Neil] #2755931
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Originally Posted by Neil
Just tried to buy hand soap for the office at Alberstons and they still don't have any. Big sections of aisles are cleaned out.


I visited my local Walmart today, and the paper products isle was completely bare of paper product, except it was now filled with single stack large Tupperware storage bins.

Guess Perception is still everything.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2755936
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BE CAREFUL on take out or delivery... the actual food itself .... the wrapping of the product and the bag or box eek

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #2755945
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Governor just told everyone non-essential to stay home so I guess me and my computer will be working from home for the time being....

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