NO wise guy, it was part of a major news story on a major news site.

Try contributing something positive next post.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-coronavirus-america-media-propaganda-war

My lovely wife is a Family Practice MD, entering her 3rd week working 14 hour days here in NY... the situation is not fun.

Here's some thoughts she shared - give people a snapshot of a day in her life..

"So lots of problems with someone who has a cough. It is covid 19, the flu, a cold, allergies, asthma, a smoker, heartburn, congestive heart failure? Who knows? How about someone who has a fever? So many possibilities! So we are screening people over the phone before they come in. Then we are screening them at the front desk and taking their temperature, and asking if they have been exposed to covid or a person under investigation. Then if they pass they can go into a room and we can see them.

What if they have a cough/fever at the front desk? We send the patient home and then talk to them on the phone (and have to figure out: should them be tested for covid? Should they be quarantined? What about keeping them out of work? What about medically treating them for whatever they do have but without being able to examine them?)but now has the front desk staff been exposed? Do they need to be quarantined for 7 to 14 days? Now the front staff is worried about exposing their family to covid. We didn’t even have masks for the front staff until yesterday although now we do.

So let’s say the patient passed screening and the provider is in the room with them. What if they were not honest with the front staff and now say they have a cough? Or they honestly didn’t think about it and now they remember? Now has the provider been exposed and needs to be quarantined for 7 to 14 days, and now can’t work with patients for that time? And the exam room needs to be decontaminated for a few hours. The medical director said that we should be wearing masks for all patients with a cough, but again we didn’t have enough masks until yesterday.

And now the kids. Kids come down with sudden fever and cough all the time, something we routinely see every week in normal circumstances, but now the parent is nervous about Covid? Go back to step one and apply to kids, the same treatment problems, with the added dimension of a freaked out parent, who isn't or can't be clear about the kid's symptoms.

And all these questions come up in various permutations about 50 times a day. And I haven’t even gotten into the decision whether they need/ can be tested...

So actually I think it’s easier to treat covid patients. You KNOW the situation - you have to wear personal protective equipment with them. With the general population who knows?

Yeah. And there are no right answers to a lot of these questions and the guidelines can change every day.

And still taking care of all the regular medical problems but trying to do much of it over the phone which has its challenges.

Sometimes crisis bring out the best in people and sometimes it brings out the worst. Patients are generally lovely as I said before but I had one complain that she had to wait 20 minutes to see me. Really?!"

Cheers,
- Art

The wifes sister just sent a e-mail saying see is now positive for the 19 virus but she is feeling fine for the time
being... she lives in Colorado

I mentioned a while back in this thread, that 2 patients at my mom’s assisted living facility were diagnosed with covid 19. Late last week a 3rd was diagnosed, this one in her independent living wing.
She just forwarded an email from the facility that one patient passed away yesterday.

The six degrees of separation is closer as time passes. Our large extended family is yet unscathed or undetected for the time being. The way some of them carry on I'm surprised.

i saw a news article that said, a place called Chateau Senior in Illinois has 30 residents positive for covid19 and 12 of the staff. so sad.

At my mom’s place, they still aren’t testing the residents afaik. She said someone comes to her door in the morning and checks her temperature with one of those no touch forehead devices.

Loss of sense of smell alone can be an early sign of COVID-19 infection:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-loss-covid-.html

Sample quote
“ While further research is required, loss of smell, or anosmia, has been reported in as many as one in three patients in South Korea and, in Germany, this figure was as high as two in three patients," says Professor of Otolaryngology (head and neck surgery) at Flinders University.

"An ENT professor in London has reported seeing a dramatic increase in patients with anosmia as their only symptom of COVID-19 infection."
End quote

Maybe sniff your coffee each morning and order a pizza each evening to sniff the cheeses?

Canada is going to run a clinical trial on the older inexpensive generic drug
Colchicine

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-drug-covid-complications.html

Sample quote

Several COVID-19 patients have had severe complications from a surge of activated immune cells in the lungs—known as a "cytokine storm."

In a cytokine storm, the immune system overreacts and damages lung tissue, leading to acute respiratory distress and multi-organ failure.

A team led by Jean-Claude Tardif, director of the Montreal Heart Institute research center and professor of medicine at the University of Montreal, are hoping the drug colchicine will work to moderate the overproduction of immune cells and their activating compounds—called cytokines—in COVID-19 patients.

If it proves to be successful, the drug—
which is already used to treat gout and pericarditis (inflammation of the heart membrane),
and is readily available and inexpensive—could become a key tool in the pandemic fight.

End quote

The 100 year old BCG vaccine may have yet another “good side effect”

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-vaccine-bcg-immune-boost-coronavirus.html

Israeli researchers recently reported that BCG vaccine might also reduce the chance of getting Alzheimers:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-12-tuberculosis-vaccine-lowers-alzheimer-disease.html

BCG vaccine was in the news recently when it was discovered that perhaps it has been given wrong for over 100 years. Giving BCG vaccine in a vein instead of the traditional “under the skin” seems to work much, much better:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-01-tb-vaccine-intravenously-potency.html

Edit:
More on BCG efforts around the world with explanations of how your immune system works:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...el-immune-system-against-new-coronavirus

Thank you 360view for the link to medical xpress. On the homepage I found an article that I will be talking with my Oncologist at UCSF with hopes of ridding 13 yrs of nerve pain.

Oh crap, things just got real here........

https://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_009d2812-5893-5023-98e2-36d47e9a6706.html

Coronavirus updates: Galveston County to order shelter in place starting Tuesday evening.

This article sort of pieces together why the POTUS has a very different tune this afternoon regarding Asian-Americans and very explicitly did not refer to it as the "Chinese Virus".

Interesting.

Yeah.. here in Mich we go on lock down tonight at mid night but I have been for about a week

Scented bleach is not allowed by by the health dept for use as a sanitizer, and will get a restuarant a critical health violation, and has for decades, keep the plain. Clorox site lists the ratios, depends on if it is plain or concentrated clorox. Pretty sure they said 30 seconds.

.... but this for personal use ! ... is it that the scented isn’t as effective? What’s the reason for the health department directive?

No idea, pretty sure scented does not say kills 99.9% of everything. Could be nobody had paid to have them tested. I do know clorox commercial gallons are one of only 2 certified to kill corona on the clorox site, it does not say that on the bottles yet.

Cool THX .... but neither of the bleach I have access to is the Clorox brand ..

doc, read the % of cl on the lable if 5% use 3/4 cup to a gallon of water.
adjust if it's 4 %, by reducing the gallon (128 oz) 20% ( to approx 100 oz)
always add the clorox to the water.
If you can find pool chlorine it's 10 % use 3/4 cup to 2 gallons water.
Keep the mixture in a cool dark place tightly capped.
Don't store it in a spray bottle unless it's for use with caustic materials i.e. chemical resistant.

They may be fine, go to that brands website and ask, all the same acid I think, just the scent is an impurity.