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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 05:29 PM
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USA map of where hospitals with at least one Intensive Care Unit bed are https://khn.org/news/as-coronavirus...icans-live-in-counties-with-no-icu-beds/Sample quote Overall, 18 million people live in counties that have hospitals but no ICU, about a quarter of them 60 or older, the analysis shows. Nearly 11 million more Americans reside in counties with no hospital, some 2.7 million of them seniors. Snip Consider the homes of two midsize cities: The Louisville area of Jefferson County, Kentucky, for instance, has one ICU bed for every 442 people age 60 or older, while in Santa Cruz, California, that number stands at one bed for every 2,601 residents. Differences are vast within each state as well: San Francisco, with one bed for every 532 older residents, and Los Angeles, with 847 residents per bed, both have greater bed availability than does Santa Cruz. Even counties that rank in the top 10% for ICU bed count still have as many as 450 older people potentially competing for each bed. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 05:58 PM
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Interesting. A lawyer from New York who is now "an advisor to the Stanford University School of Medicine" pusing this idea up a flag pole. What's his stake in this? Found to be not completely inaccurate days ago. It's a complete tragedy for our Government or Press to pawn the latest snake oil. I think it's best to let legitimate researchers do the work. I can't believe the media that stoops to offering false hope that leads segments of populations to throw caution to the wind. Right now older sick people are the most common victim. What happens should younger populations (by sheer numbers of miscreants who ignore public health directives) who are infected and infect others become the carrier of a morph that starts killing younger groups off? Remember shear numbers and flatten the curve. Sound far fetched? This virus has already morphed as it is generally believed to have have started to an intestinal virus in bats and transferred to turtles or pangolins that were sold to be eaten at the market in China. At some time between bat and human it morphed into a respiratory virus that includes gene sequence seen in pangolin viruses. That is what we have now, scary virus transferred to humans by an odd looking food/medicine that has no cure. Who knows how this virus will look in a few days or months from now. Shear numbers and flatten the curve so that there is less opportunity for this virus to morph leaving us with chasing cures. I wrote Shear intentionally as we need to cut the number of infected people spreading this crap about. P.S. ->Click<- For wWIRED article that explains the lawyer/consultant/smoke/mirrors.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 06:26 PM
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Interesting. A lawyer from New York who is now "an advisor to the Stanford University School of Medicine" pusing this idea up a flag pole. What's his stake in this? Found to be not completely inaccurate days ago. It's a complete tragedy for our Government or Press to pawn the latest snake oil. I think it's best to let legitimate researchers do the work. I can't believe the media that stoops to offering false hope that leads segments of populations to throw caution to the wind. Right now older sick people are the most common victim. What happens should younger populations (by sheer numbers of miscreants who ignore public health directives) who are infected and infect others become the carrier of a morph that starts killing younger groups off? Remember shear numbers and flatten the curve. Sound far fetched? This virus has already morphed as it is generally believed to have have started to an intestinal virus in bats and transferred to turtles or pangolins that were sold to be eaten at the market in China. At some time between bat and human it morphed into a respiratory virus that includes gene sequence seen in pangolin viruses. That is what we have now, scary virus transferred to humans by an odd looking food/medicine that has no cure. Who knows how this virus will look in a few days or months from now. Shear numbers and flatten the curve so that there is less opportunity for this virus to morph leaving us with chasing cures. I wrote Shear intentionally as we need to cut the number of infected people spreading this crap about. P.S. ->Click<- For wWIRED article that explains the lawyer/consultant/smoke/mirrors. So you are saying the drug trials going on around the world with this 1-2 punch showing 100% cure rate are BS? According to the article, the French did a controlled roll-out to 40 patients, & it knocked the virus completely out of all 40. What don't you believe? That the UFO that landed in your yard that you watched & walked inside of was not a UFO?
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 07:01 PM
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 07:03 PM
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To the Naysayers that keep searching the web for any small tidbits to push your naysaying ways.....
GET OFF MY LAWN!
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Posting cheap tech help (CRAP) here since Nov 97, 1000's of posts, some may be good.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 07:05 PM
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87 year old rubella vaccine inventor still working on today’s threat https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...k-rubella-working-defeat-new-coronavirusSample quote Q: Before the rubella vaccine was licensed in 1969, rubella was cyclical, coming in outbreaks every 4 to 6 years. Should we expect that with the novel coronavirus? A: That is the $64,000 question. I really have no firm answer to that. We all hope—and I underline hope—that the [novel] coronavirus will not persist in the population in some mild form that could pop up again and again. Bear in mind that there are three or four [different] respiratory coronaviruses that were isolated years ago and which are still circulating, and which cause fortunately mild respiratory infections. They are not going away. And we just don’t know about this coronavirus. That’s why the effort to develop a vaccine in the shortest possible time is so important. Because obviously if next winter [it] returns, we must have a vaccine by that time. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 07:10 PM
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 07:14 PM
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.. by that time.
End quote Lets not forget the anti vaccine crowd. Also, the cocktail supposedly lessens the duration of the infection, it does not prevent one from getting it. It's a treatment and not a vaccine. I'd encourage everyone to ferret out the truth rather than looking for what we want to hear. Doing so has got the world to where it is. I don't think everything has to be a tug-o-war or point counterpoint or fox/cnn battle of wits. We all need good sources of news right now and not fall prey to disseminating info creating false hope of defeating this Chimera. Dang, pizza sounds good right now!
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 08:17 PM
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Even though they’ve locked down IL, carry out is still open. I just went out and picked up a pan pizza at my favorite pizza place.  I did take my canister of wipes with and wiped my hands and door handle after getting back in the car. And tossed the box after getting home and removing the pizza from it, and hope my precautions will allow me to survive. It was damn good and have enough leftovers for a meal or two later this week.  But not “to die for”.  My favorite Chinese carry out that I order from every couple weeks is in the same strip mall, and was closed with a sign in the window saying closed due to the outbreak. 
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 09:03 PM
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You must trust the really smart. Returning to the N95 mask discussion. I checked my shop today, and one of the boxes of N95 masks on the back of the shelf I had thought was a box of 50 is only 20, but still had the price tag on it, $2.95  . I do and still do during this downturn do a lot of fiberglass, Carbon fiber, body filler, metal grinding etc I have other "100" organic masks and the typical nuisance dust masks, which are almost worthless, except I wonder how useful they might be wearing over a N95 mask, as a pre filer to extend a N95 useful life? I was also thinking about how non medical users could safely extend the private use of non valve N95 masks, based on the earlier suggestion of using 48hrs? of sunlight/UV to disinfect. I was wondering what full emulsion in Hydrogen peroxide, isopropyl alcohol ( maybe test one with a drop or two added of Tincture of iodine to get some long term virus/microbial benefits?), 10% bleach/water, and/or boiling water would do to the composition of the mask. Even if it degraded it a bit, it could extend its life in this crisis. I would think in all cases keeping the retaining straps above the method chosen, would help to protect them, and not sure the straps are a big hazard item anyway. I haven't decided yet to "sacrifice" 4? masts to test them out, and I have no way to verify any non visual degradation, nor real effectiveness in sterilizing/disinfecting the masks. Any suggestions? PS, I'm all for anchovies
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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03/22/20 09:59 PM
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I wouldnt test on your masks.. I talked to my Doc buddy and he said they are worth like gold right now.. I gave him my last box of the 95s.. I did keep 2 for the wife and I... if needed... EDIT I did also dive him a box of non sterile nitrite gloves if he wantd them.. I also do a bunch of carbon fiber and glass work 
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