Minutia COVID comment clarification.

NY Gov Cuomo made an analogy a few days ago and effectively stated "Testing (COVID) is like what missiles were to WW2"

Sorry that was an inept odd analogy IMO.

Missiles usually have a guidance system. The only main known ones were used by the Germans late in the war, were mainly ineffective infrastructure wise, and primarily served as a revenge terror weapon.

A better more relate-able analogy to WW2 should have more like, "Testing (COVID) is like the the Jeep of WW2".

At a little past the 7:45 minute mark in this youtube video there is information about the over the counter supplement Quercetin, which at a dose of 3000 to 6000 mg per day might be beneficial against COVID-19 for similar reasons that Hydroxy-Chloroquine is. Quercetin is generally in 500 mg tablets. Previously Quercetin has been found to treat Influenza and Ebola viruses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4_LsftNKM

Well, this is interesting:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...ege-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

Summary of the report:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239975682643357696.html

Treat it like the flu, and we'd lose closer to 4 million people, and 8-15% over 70.

eek

Well the applebees is closed NOW ... drove by earlier. Not even for take out from what I saw.

This is from a friend in Bergamo, Italy.

Todays Update:
not really on the COVID19 (793 deads, of which 546 in Lombardy alone) but on how we got that hell here.

The most credited theory is
A F.....G soccer match.

The numbers seems all right:
ATALANTA-VALENCIA, Soccer Match on 19 FEB 2020, SAN SIRO STADIUM, MILAN, LOMBARDY

COVID 19 was still thought as a Chinese thing, 45,000 fans from the northern regions watched the match (Atalanta is the Bergamo team, and it was sort of the higher match/championship run. Not a soccer fan, so I'm bit ignorant)

MARCH 4, 14 exact days after the match, when the first cases were found and they were searching for patient 0, the sky falls on Bergamo and it begins the shitslide what you see now.

MARCH 9, Atalanta team goes in Valencia, playing a closed door match. Thank god no fans watching. Stadium was sold out.

MARCH 16, Valencia coach says that all his personnel is found positive to Corona Virus.

This all seems very plausible. We had 45K patient 0's.

(Edited, Spell checked is all)

jCc ... you know more than most here .....

A Q that’s been bugging me .....

If the max life of the virus is 48 hours ... why not let any used masks 48 hours to DRY OUT in the sun light then reuse them ?

They need to make some Ozone air boxes that they can put these used mask's in and flow 2 hours of pure Ozone and then a few hours of just clean HEPA filtered air.
Not many things living on this earth can survive 2 hours of Ozone.

Similar Q = if 86* F kills the virus can hot water washing or heating in a dryer or autoclave be utilized?

THERE you go guys ..... 86 degrees ? It was 89 today in Florida...

Hell ....pop them in a 100 degree oven !

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Keep in mind doc that reports say that is the case. HOWEVER, the entire southern hemisphere, while slow to get rolling with the outbreak (temps?, less affluent travellers?) now has many. I also feel it may likely be airborne solely because of the rate of dispersion to even remote islands.
Other reports claim the virus has morphed a couple times since it wis isolated. Lastly the country previously known as the ussr has jumped on the tally up bandwagon. I expect more and more attempts by the power brokers there to control the news flow.

Back from the pool and hot tub ....

Arnold had it over me ... I didn’t have a hat or stogie or underwater maid !

How about a box to put those masks in with a hair dryer blowing in !

100 degrees in no time !

Then before I left ... on Jesse’s show was Dr Oz !

If new masks are available use them.

But if old masks must be reused
my guess is that they could be
exposed to UV light, (UV from sun highest near noon)
sprayed with alcohol and allowed to dry,
or heated to a temperature just below where the elastic breaks down.

Masks are most valuable to put on sick people, including sick people who do not yet feel they are sick.

Since there is a 4 to 10 day incubation period before symptoms are felt when you wear a mask in public you are mainly doing a great favor to other people.

Masks do reduce by about a 1/3 your chances of breathing in a relatively fat water droplet that was coughed/sneezed out from a sick person.

In low humidity fat droplets evaporate away to small droplets that can go through masks.
This is a time to hope for high humidity to come early.

In high humidity warm weather fat droplets stay fat much longer because evaporation is much less and these fat droplets sink faster to the ground where the virus fairly quickly becomes inactive.

My life cal Harbor Freight donated all of their rubber gloves to those in need. Kinda funny walking down the rows where the gloves used to be stacked.

Jsta before the V hit I picked up THIS ..... I’m carrying one of these in the car ....

Maybe not the most pleasant smelling butttt ....

According to the CDC .... bleach works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favipiravir

Seems to have worked in both Chinese and Japanese small trials in humans against the Wuhan novel coronavirus.

With 5 drugs now identified
plus Gamma Globulin Serum from recovered patients’ blood donations,
it now looks like
outstanding Logistics
is what is needed to get
drugs, tests and supplies to where they are needed.

Things could be far worse...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-crisis-hit-venezuelans-homemade-remedies-virus.html

Eqyally good and more concentrated is swim pool chlorine. Runs about 10%, regular bleach is o.k., but generally has additives (smell, anty splash, etc).
Mix pool chlorine down and also mix straight chlorox down by a formula you find on-line. I don't want to be responsible. I'll add this: pour the chlorine into the water, not vice versa.
Another method to sanitize using uv is an air pump with tubing connected to a stainless steel container with a high discharge uv light tube inside.The ss container has a fitting to attach another tube that runs to a large container or small room and the pump runs air through the ozonze rich ss container and onto the ozone treatment box/room.
One source is "revolution ozone", others can be found by searching ozone generator or ozone treatment for water. I have one on our water system to remove iron and sanitize water that can be easily retrofitted by unplugging one tube and plugging in a second tube into my treatment box. It's a large plastic storage box with snap on lid. Ozone is heavier than air and will fill the box anything needing sanitized is simply placed into the box where it becomes submerged in the "pool
of ozone. Leave items in there long enough to drown the item in deadly oxygen absent oxone. Also do not have this in your house as it will kill you very similar to drowning.
I am also curious if sweat houses the native indians of the pacific northwest could be effective in ridding people of this virus.

Not sure i agree with your initial premise.

I might concede I might be more intense and outspoken then normal.

To address your question, I think a bigger more pertinent question, which I mentioned briefly days ago and it got little traction here, any "95" series mask with a breathing "valve", only stops the virus from being transmitting one direction, on the intake. Many "industrial" masks have this feature, they cost slightly more money, and are rather beneficial when used by a wearer doing exerting labor outdoors. I wonder if the recent exemption of liability congress passed, took this into account, because it really promotes a lot of false hope to those nearby a wearer, IMO.


Also IMO, sunlight is normally a great disinfectant, why I like grabbing an empty grocery cart that has been left in the sunlight, vs one racked inside the air conditioned store.

Unless you live next to say an outdoor land fill, the sun/heat is your friend for killing bad stuff if kept dry.

Anyone desiring one explanation and overview of the outbreak:
->Click<-
From some intermediate host (turtle, pangolin, or?) to pandemic in < 3months!
Interesting to me that in state of Hubei (where Wuhan Market Source is located) there are 67,800 infected (pop = 58.5m).
USA has an estimated population of 329m (Jan of 2020). We have nearly 5 times the population and over approx 1/2 the amount of cases. Granted the market was a breeding ground and the responsibles in the state suppressed info giving the virus a head start. Seems we are running a parallel course with our numbers on the up-swing. We find ourselves now treating w/o test results (good move over the option of sending petri dishes home). Seems like the powers have gained attention and are now going after this thing that will be cutting life short for some and hitting all of our pocketbooks for the rest of our lives.
This surreal situation is much like bloodletting of the 1700's, saping the strength of our population. many unidentified effects.
Lastly beware if this morphs again. This virus is not a life form nor a chemical "thing" it's not known how it can react at any time after right now.