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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2753831
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I hear Summit Racing is still open.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2753832
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
I hear Summit Racing is still open.

Not sure about today but 4 days ago I ordered $480 in parts from Summit. They all got here yesterday late afternoon. Still in garage unopened. Will set there for another 4 days or so.


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Dave_J] #2753838
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So with the "lock downs" in NY and Ca, not sure how I see this being real effective, if anybody from another state can just waltz in. Seems like it would be more effective and shorter if nationwide. Seems like those who feel they are outside the circle of risk (tin foil hat denial?), will only prolong this crisis with their thinking.

This should not be a 48? state decision, and if so, it's rather divisive, and risky.

Being a leader sometimes requires tough, unpopular, deliberate decisions from the top.

Many predictions from day one have been spot on, we all know which ones.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Dave_J] #2753839
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2753898
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This team is cross checking whether any of the
20,000 drugs already approved as safe for humans
can block proteins essential to the wuhan coronavirus that causes COVID-19:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-drugs-covid-19so-pieces-coronavirus.html

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Our chemists used a massive database to match the approved drugs and proteins they interact with to the proteins on our list. They found 10 candidate drugs last week. For example, one of the hits was a cancer drug called JQ1. While we cannot predict how this drug might affect the virus, it has a good chance of doing something. Through testing, we will know if that something helps patients.

Facing the threat of global border shutdowns, we immediately shipped boxes of these 10 drugs to two of the few labs in the world working with live coronavirus samples: at the Pasteur Institute in Paris and Mount Sinai in New York. By March 13, the drugs were being tested in cells to see if they prevent the virus from reproducing.

Our team will soon learn from our collaborators at Mt. Sinai and the Pasteur Institute whether any of these first 10 drugs work against SARS-CoV-2 infections. Meanwhile, the team has continued fishing with viral baits, finding hundreds of additional human proteins that the coronavirus co-opts. We will be publishing the results in the online repository BioRxiv soon.

The good news is that so far, our team has found 50 existing drugs that bind the human proteins we've identified. This large number makes me hopeful that we'll be able to find a drug to treat COVID-19. If we find an approved drug that even slows down the virus's progression, doctors should be able to start getting it to patients quickly and save lives

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2753940
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On the tube I watched a guy say there were some real "hot spots" And cited were California and New York.
Out of curiosity I did a little research and found the "Hot Spots defined by Per Capita and by Shear numbers is somewhat interesting and perhaps should be used for education those in charge and also the populace so steps can be taken. Numbers are from earlier today. I am a retired engineer and data is interesting.
Hot Spots are definately around high concentrations of people and one can nearly forget geo-political boundaries when slinging diatribes. What I see is some of the State (Areas) with lowest population have high infection rates. Conversely California with the most population is toward the middle of infection rate.
Rank is Highest per capita dx with cv19 - Sorry Excel does not import real well, but follow down the chart.

Infection
Rank Pop Rank Population cv19 cases % of pop
1 4 New York 19,440,469 5365 2.760%
2 13 Washington 7,797,095 1376 1.765%
3 25 Louisiana 4,645,184 392 0.844%
4 11 New Jersey 8,936,574 742 0.830%
5 50 District of Columbia 720,687 40 0.555%
6 21 Colorado 5,845,526 277 0.474%
7 15 Massachusetts 6,976,597 328 0.470%
8 29 Connecticut 3,563,077 159 0.446%
9 45 Rhode Island 1,056,161 44 0.417%
10 43 Maine 1,345,790 52 0.386%
11 51 Vermont 628,061 22 0.350%
12 6 Illinois 12,659,682 422 0.333%
13 10 Michigan 10,045,029 334 0.333%
14 42 New Hampshire 1,371,246 44 0.321%
15 52 Wyoming 567,025 18 0.317%
16 46 Delaware 982,895 30 0.305%
17 32 Nevada 3,139,658 95 0.303%
18 20 Wisconsin 5,851,754 159 0.272%
19 8 Georgia 10,736,059 287 0.267%
20 30 Utah 3,282,115 80 0.244%
21 1 California 39,937,489 952 0.238%
22 48 North Dakota 761,723 18 0.236%
23 16 Tennessee 6,897,576 154 0.223%
24 27 Oregon 4,301,089 88 0.205%
25 33 Arkansas 3,038,999 62 0.204%
26 3 Florida 21,992,985 417 0.190%
27 19 Maryland 6,083,116 107 0.176%
28 35 Mississippi 2,989,260 50 0.167%
29 37 New Mexico 2,096,640 35 0.167%
30 5 Pennsylvania 12,820,878 206 0.161%
31 24 Alabama 4,908,621 78 0.159%
32 22 Minnesota 5,700,671 89 0.156%
33 23 South Carolina 5,210,095 81 0.155%
34 38 Nebraska 1,952,570 29 0.149%
35 31 Iowa 3,179,849 44 0.138%
36 49 Alaska 734,002 9 0.123%
37 47 South Dakota 903,027 11 0.122%
38 36 Kansas 2,910,357 34 0.117%
39 9 North Carolina 10,611,862 123 0.116%
40 12 Virginia 8,626,207 99 0.115%
41 41 Hawaii 1,412,687 16 0.113%
42 28 Oklahoma 3,954,821 44 0.111%
43 7 Ohio 11,747,694 119 0.101%
44 44 Montana 1,086,759 11 0.101%
45 17 Indiana 6,745,354 60 0.089%
46 2 Texas 29,472,295 260 0.088%
47 26 Kentucky 4,499,692 37 0.082%
48 14 Arizona 7,378,494 45 0.061%
49 39 Idaho 1,826,156 11 0.060%
50 18 Missouri 6,169,270 31 0.050%
51 40 West Virginia 1,778,070 2 0.011%

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: srt] #2753955
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Don't hate me but:

1. Hurricane season officially starts June 1
2. Hurricanes seem to be starting earlier each year in past years
3. They also seem to be getting stronger/larger
4. There is no scientific reason hurricanes cannot form before 6/1
5. They already have
6. Atlantic hurricanes potentially threaten many states/population
7. The loss of life of elderly patients at a nursing home during IRMA with a power outage and loss of life was well documented
8. I have no idea the difficulty of moving a large number of patients on respirators when in an evacuation area
9. There are no shelters that can separate evacuees during a hurricane
10. Since it has been widely reported few saw this pandemic coming, I'm fairly confident the impact or just the threat of a hurricane with a full blown pandemic occurring has not been considered, or it so gruesome those in the know, will not discuss it.

Knowledge is power in some peoples eyes.





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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2753957
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: jcc] #2753979
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Other natural disasters could pop-up as well. There was a 5.2 earthquake off the coast of Eureka in far nor cal and another 4.5 just a few minutes ago by Carson City NV. Those were not bad for damage but I thought about the logistics and monetary crush one would deliver if it hit so cal.
Our elected people and their appointees are probably thinking they did not sign up for this.

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Originally Posted by jcc


Well jCc ..., jsta called Applebees... they are closed now at 10 but they don’t have knowledge of orders to close for sit down dining.....

Today ... because the crowds were light they have given the word DISTANCING new meaning......

30% occupancy... at least one table separation....

If THAT is not reasonable and acceptable......

then CLOSE DOWN the grocery stores because distancing and separation THERE is not even that generous.

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Originally Posted by srt
Other natural disasters could pop-up as well. There was a 5.2 earthquake off the coast of Eureka in far nor cal and another 4.5 just a few minutes ago by Carson City NV. Those were not bad for damage but I thought about the logistics and monetary crush one would deliver if it hit so cal.
Our elected people and their appointees are probably thinking they did not sign up for this.


I’m sure MOST OF US WILL AGREE .... the large LARGE percentage of those folks have feathered their beds BIG TIME .... and should do twice the work that they are assigned to do .... tsk

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2754041
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Drug professor and radio show host Joe Graedon on Chloroquine:

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/art...uine-and-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2754047
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Here's a great visual representation of the goal behind social distancing and stay-at-home requirements.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...aWWwr24_6_JKhot-OCMXEcbaghkytrVjEjn5i0tA


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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2754071
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Originally Posted by GoodysGotaCuda
Here's a great visual representation of the goal behind social distancing and stay-at-home requirements.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...aWWwr24_6_JKhot-OCMXEcbaghkytrVjEjn5i0tA


It is a great visualization. I wish they would put something like this on the TV. Last sentence in the presentation is sombering, “in real life some of the dots should disappear”.

For those of us that have friends or relatives in nursing homes or assisted living this has to be even more difficult.

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Originally Posted by srt
Other natural disasters could pop-up as well. There was a 5.2 earthquake off the coast of Eureka in far nor cal and another 4.5 just a few minutes ago by Carson City NV. Those were not bad for damage but I thought about the logistics and monetary crush one would deliver if it hit so cal.
Our elected people and their appointees are probably thinking they did not sign up for this.


Yes, we have a plethora of horrific possibilities, but few have such a large potential area and population impact, that provides an advance warning for mass evacuation and storing of needed supplies with a threatening hurricane. Since normally only a small percentage are actually impacted by a storm, its those that aren't, and are packed together while waiting, with all the supplies normally told to acquire pre storm by the authorities, and now found in very scare quantities, sure looks like the proverbial perfect storm to me.

Granted ,the chances are very slim, like the chances of this current pandemic.


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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by jcc


Well jCc ..., jsta called Applebees... they are closed now at 10 but they don’t have knowledge of orders to close for sit down dining.....

Today ... because the crowds were light they have given the word DISTANCING new meaning......

30% occupancy... at least one table separation....

If THAT is not reasonable and acceptable......

then CLOSE DOWN the grocery stores because distancing and separation THERE is not even that generous.


Not sure many support local restaurants more then I do, to tune of eating out on the average pre COVID `15? times a week.
I will survive Applebees/Pizza Parlors/etc closing their dining, it would be very difficult for me losing access to a grocery store.

That being said, I emailed Gov DeSantis my idea last night of going to alternate check out lanes in the grocery stores. We'll see.

I'm sure there are other possibilities to mitigate the spread of COVID in a grocery store, such you must wear a mask inside, every one must push a grocery cart, empty or full when in the store, to help maintain spacing, etc

We have to try.


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To expand upon the data I posted above I looked for a site that showed cases per county. I live in California and knew the highest numbers of infected were in the SF Bay Area and the LA Basin. I thought about the rest of the country and portions with the highest concentrations of people, especially eastern seaboard. Many were among the highest percapita infection rate. I then located one of those night time satellite photos that show the country at night that really shows concentrations of people. Wow, what and eye opener. Granted most high per capoita infections are in highly populated areas, yet a few sparsely populated states (albeit concetrations) have high per capita. A lot can be determined if one chooses to seek local data showing numbers of infection (by county of the various states) and them see if age demographics are available. Regardless the pic is there to ponder.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2754227
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Some recovered COVID patients report they started feeling better then suddenly got worse:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...symptoms-often-linger-worsening-n1164756

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Dr Denison said nearly all of his most critically ill patients have a combination of three specific underlying medical problems: obesity, high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes.

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Originally Posted by 360view
Some recovered COVID patients report they started feeling better then suddenly got worse:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...symptoms-often-linger-worsening-n1164756

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Dr Denison said nearly all of his most critically ill patients have a combination of three specific underlying medical problems: obesity, high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes.

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What they seem to fail to mention unfortunately, it apparently helps little if the diseases are being medicated and under control.

I have all three under control/medication, and have lost 52 lbs since 11-5-19, and still trending downward.

I take this very seriously.



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In case it hasn't been posted:

This is from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University:

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand…
It has to do with RNA sequencing…. ie. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year… you get immunity two ways…through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals…the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1), (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans, then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity…the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now…sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human. For years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer from human to human…once that happens, we have a new *contagion phase*…and depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that will decide how contagious, or deadly it’s gonna be.
H1N1 was deadly…but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

*Fast forward*.
Now, here comes this Coronavirus…it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long. But one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person…But here is the scary part…in just *TWO WEEKS* it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, *“slippery”*

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity), took off like a rocket. This was because, Humans have no known immunity…doctors have no known medicines for it.

It just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way that it causes great damage to human lungs.

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza…this one is “slippery”. It’s a lung eater. It’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have *two strains* to deal with, *strain S* and *strain L*, which make it twice as hard to develop a vaccine for. *We really have no tools in our shed, with this*.

*History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics.* Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed…(honestly…I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation!
And let me end by saying…right now it’s hitting older folks harder… but this genome is so slippery…if it mutates again (and it will) who is to say, what it will do next.
Be smart…acting like you’re unafraid is not smart right now.

Stay home folks…and share this with those that just are not catching on. Please explain the gravity of this to your children. It’s going to be hard, they will be bored, but this is the only way we can help flatten the curve.

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