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03/19/20 11:41 AM
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I heard about this several days ago. With everyone massively using hand sanitizer there’s a danger to your pets especially dogs. Don’t let them lick your hands. Apparently hand sanitizers have ingredients that are found in antifreeze. I asked my vet and she confirmed that. You should also let the sanitizer totally absorb in the skin before handling food. Maybe a further look into this is prudent.

I should ad that what I have been reading some articles say no, doesn’t cause harm while others say yes. Probably air on the side of caution.

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03/19/20 11:46 AM
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On the radio yesterday I heard that you need to let the hand sanitizer dry completely on your hands. Don't wipe your hands dry after using it. By wiping your hands dry, you could be creating a "super bug". The weaker germs will die off quickly but the stronger one will survive. Those stronger germs will then multiply. By letting your hands dry completely, those stronger germs will die off. shruggy

Re: Warning [Re: dart4forte] #2753432
03/19/20 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dart4forte
I heard about this several days ago. With everyone massively using hand sanitizer there’s a danger to your pets especially dogs. Don’t let them lick your hands. Apparently hand sanitizers have ingredients that are found in antifreeze. I asked my vet and she confirmed that. You should also let the sanitizer totally absorb in the skin before handling food. Maybe a further look into this is prudent.

I should ad that what I have been reading some articles say no, doesn’t cause harm while others say yes. Probably air on the side of caution.




Propylene Glycol the main ingredient of "anti-freeze", is an additive in most commercial pet food to keep the "meat" moist... So most pet owner have been slowly poisoning their pets for years unknowingly.

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03/19/20 12:25 PM
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You are better off using soap and water than hand sanitizer anyway. Another tip is if you mop your floors or clean the counters with any chemical or disinfectant keep your animals locked in a room until it’s completely dry that’s really hard on them too.

Re: Warning [Re: 65pacecar] #2753590
03/19/20 06:44 PM
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The chemical of concern in antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Hand sanitizers, which are either ethanol- or isopropanol-based, do not contain ethylene glycol. It is true that ethylene glycol is very dangerous to pets (and humans) if ingested, even in small quantities, but such a fact is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Although ethanol poisoning (i.e what happens when a human drinks a medically dangerous amount of alcohol) is possible if a pet were to consume large quantities of hand sanitizer, an animal merely licking a recently sanitized hand is not cause for concern. For that reason, the claim is “False.”


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Re: Warning [Re: megajoltman] #2753595
03/19/20 07:01 PM
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One can also make their own.
I've made a concoction using rubbing alcohol, food grade glycerin and aloe gel.

Re: Warning [Re: megajoltman] #2753596
03/19/20 07:03 PM
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It’s gotten on bad around here, I’m just waiting for broadcast on not to smoke hand sanitizer (yes it has happened).

Re: Warning [Re: megajoltman] #2753597
03/19/20 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by megajoltman
The chemical of concern in antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Hand sanitizers, which are either ethanol- or isopropanol-based, do not contain ethylene glycol. It is true that ethylene glycol is very dangerous to pets (and humans) if ingested, even in small quantities, but such a fact is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Although ethanol poisoning (i.e what happens when a human drinks a medically dangerous amount of alcohol) is possible if a pet were to consume large quantities of hand sanitizer, an animal merely licking a recently sanitized hand is not cause for concern. For that reason, the claim is “False.”


^^Yepper.

But the ingredient used in many things edible including pet food, cake frosting, laxatives and tooth paste is Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) PEG makes liquids like some Liquors, Fireball whisky, thicker to the tongue. It is used as a filler (its cut with dry PEG) in many pharmaceutical drugs. Miralax laxative is PEG 3350


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Re: Warning [Re: Dave_J] #2753602
03/19/20 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave_J
Originally Posted by megajoltman
The chemical of concern in antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Hand sanitizers, which are either ethanol- or isopropanol-based, do not contain ethylene glycol. It is true that ethylene glycol is very dangerous to pets (and humans) if ingested, even in small quantities, but such a fact is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Although ethanol poisoning (i.e what happens when a human drinks a medically dangerous amount of alcohol) is possible if a pet were to consume large quantities of hand sanitizer, an animal merely licking a recently sanitized hand is not cause for concern. For that reason, the claim is “False.”


^^Yepper.

But the ingredient used in many things edible including pet food, cake frosting, laxatives and tooth paste is Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) PEG makes liquids like some Liquors, Fireball whisky, thicker to the tongue. It is used as a filler (its cut with dry PEG) in many pharmaceutical drugs. Miralax laxative is PEG 3350


The big fight to keep all the cheaper pharmaceutical drugs from Canada and Mexico from coming into USA is quoting the 'Dangerous' ingredients inside. The anti import group keeps quoting that they use Antifreeze and other minerals in their drugs.
The Canadian drugs use Polyethylene Glycol (PEG 3350) as a thickener/filler. They use Titanium Dioxide as a whitening. These are the same things that the USA manufactures are using in our drugs.

Polyethylene Glycol is NOT the same as Ethylene Glycol.


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Re: Warning [Re: Dave_J] #2753606
03/19/20 07:27 PM
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Even the pot heads, not to be confused with the much brighter family like the us potato heads are goofy on top of goofy to smoke it. A not so smart friend tells me it tastes like antifreeze.


Polyethylene glycol (PEG): a cutting agent used in vape liquids to keep the product evenly mixed. Propylene glycol (PG): a binding agent that is added to cannabis vape cartridges because of its ability to foster even vape draws. Vegetable glycerin (VG): Added to vape liquids to help generate large vape clouds for the user.

Glycol is a water-miscible coolant that is frequently used in heat transfer and cooling applications. It provides better heat transfer parameters than water, and can be mixed with water to provide a variety of heat transfer characteristics. Glycol comes in two varieties: ethylene glycol and propylene glycol.


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03/19/20 10:33 PM
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Damn pOtO .... you beez iMpReSsIvE today !

But to some ... there are many uses for hand sanitizer eek

Re: Warning [Re: dOc !] #2753692
03/20/20 01:30 AM
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Propylene glycol is used for domestic and RV plumbing antifreeze specifically because it is NOT toxic to humans or pets.

I read that warning on FB too and like most everything else on there, it was BS.

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Re: Warning [Re: Twostick] #2753707
03/20/20 08:01 AM
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Some of you guys are mixing up ETHYLENE Glycol with PROPYLENE Glycol. Big difference.

Ethylene is the main ingredient in traditional "Green" antifreeze that is highly toxic to pets and people.
Propylene is a chemical used as an antifreeze, but it is generally non-toxic.

What the potato said.

We have several buildings on campus that have older 2-pipe heating and cooling--we have been converting over to Propylene in all the buildings. It makes any leaks in the future much simpler to clean up due to its non-toxicity.

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03/20/20 08:32 AM
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Propylene Glycol is not harmless, it is less harmful. You do have to either fall into a small groups of people sensitive to it or ingest stupid amounts of it to hurt. Except for vaping, jury is out on that but I don't vape.

But people have been doing stupid things forever so I am sure it will continue. Probably soon to be the beverage of choice to wash down those Tide Pods.

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03/20/20 11:32 AM
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Just say NO to Glycol!

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My mixture of rubbing alcohol, food grade glycerine and aloe gel from our organic plants we grow in my opinion is better than anything on the shelf. I make it because I have sensitivities to some of the smells used in the commercial stuff. I'm planning to mix some up with high quality liquid lanolin so it's not so hard on the hands.
RE: smoking (tobacco, pot, vape, etc) Diminished lung capacity from smoking, or even environmental contaminants from work, household chemicals and even poor air quality will have a detrimental effect on anyone contracting the virus that attacks one's lungs. I've often wondered if the high death rates in some countries is due to their air quality (environmental, smoking, smoke from cooking/heating fuels) and it's effect on their lungs.
Regardless, substantial anmount of humans have no ability to resist the virus and it continues to run rampant through our world.







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