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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: fast68plymouth] #2750253
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Lifter to bushing clearance = 0.002
The EDM oil feed is on the side of the lifter 90* from the roller same as the comp
What is the body height of the 87016c ? they look short
My Crower 66233E are 1.950 body height and they still sit 0.500 does in the bushing and hang over 0.500 below the bushing
Have you used the comp 96829-16 Sportsman lifters? they look taller in the online catalog if that means anything

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: Moparrob68] #2750406
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On the 87016, from the bottom of the wheel to the top of the body is 1.810”.

From the bottom of the wheel to the center of the link bar attaching screw is about 3.050”.
They are designed to be able to be used with blocks that have tall lifter bores.
I used them in a World aluminum block with a .484 lobe lift cam.

Here is a pic of an Isky Red Zone that has the flats on the sides of the body like yours.
They have the EDM holes done the same as well........ but they have added an oil band to get the oil from the gallery to the EDM holes.

As you’ve discovered....... without “connecting the dots”...... the EDM holes aren’t much help.

I have a few customers running the Sportsman lifters with no problems, but they are all running stock blocks.
However, I don’t think there would be any issue running them in a block set up like yours.
For the BB Mopar application, they do not pushrod oil.

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: fast68plymouth] #2750516
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Do they make a roller lifter that also feeds oil to the push rods, if so what part# are they, would like to have push rod oiling.

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: dafixr] #2750519
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The Morels I posted have pushrod oiling


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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: INTMD8] #2750721
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do you have Morel part# ? Thanks (5260)?

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: fast68plymouth] #2750739
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Do you know the dimensions and oil band location on the Sportsman lifters?

Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: Moparrob68] #2750743
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There are a couple of pics in the link:

The band is quite narrow, so you’d probably have to make a little vertical groove off your feed hole in the bushing to have the groove in the lifter seeing pressure full time.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...-roller-lifters-with-bronze-bushing.html


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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: AndyF] #2752921
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Originally Posted by AndyF
I ran into this a couple of times where Comp published information saying the 829 provided oil to the bearing but it doesn't. I think someone at Comp just messed up and got their part numbers confused. The issue is that then people read that info and believe it and then other folks don't know what to believe.


Just received my 829s they do have pin oiling holes one on each side within the very narrow oil band . .690 lift and the band stays well within the lifter bore . Have not measured that yet but will try
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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: Wirenut] #2753033
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Any way you could post a pic of these?

They are straight “829’s”....... not 96829’s, correct?

In the past, 829’s have had smooth bodies without any oil band.

Top- 829

Bottom- 96829

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: dafixr] #2753043
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Originally Posted by dafixr
do you have Morel part# ? Thanks (5260)?


The ones I have are #6774

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: '72CudaRacer] #2753061
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Originally Posted by '72CudaRacer
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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
If you want a good durable lifter, go w/ the Iskys w/ the bushings. I have the old style Isky Red Zones w/ needle bearings and they've been flawless. Bought them in 2006 before the EZ Roll option was available.


Another small detail on the Redzone lifters,,,,,they hit the thicker lifter bore on the megablock down


I am following this thread closely, I am building a Mega block for a customer now that has always run a solid flat tappet cam but wants to go to a solid roller cam this time. The Isky Red Zone lifters are on the short list for now. What part of the lifter is hitting the lifter bore? I am assuming the link bar? Is it because the lifter is too short? Any other things to be concerned about? Also what advantage is the AMC lifter over the Mopar(besides the pin oiling)?

Thanks, Brian


Yes,the link bars hit the lifter boss so the wheel did not hit the cam lobe.


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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: fast68plymouth] #2753181
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Any way you could post a pic of these?

They are straight “829’s”....... not 96829’s, correct?

In the past, 829’s have had smooth bodies without any oil band.

Top- 829

Bottom- 96829


Apologies they are 96829 as shown in your pic.

Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: Wirenut] #2765714
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I finally got my lifter oiling problem straightened out. I ended up machining an oil slot in the lifter body and drilling a 0.060 hole to feed the EDM hole. They are at Crower getting rebuilt right now.

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Re: Mechanical roller lifter [Re: Moparrob68] #2765746
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Who has bushing lifter with hppo & push rod oiling

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