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Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2752274
03/15/20 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted by J_BODY
I probably had the lowest form of a stroker RB in existence.... low shift point, it preferred a 4.10 gear, and got my Mirada into the 9’s. It was boring and like driving a tractor laugh2

I’d love to have port fuel injection on my small block. Would be an expensive endeavor, but I’d love to have a flat stock style hood on my car smile

....but I’m a cheap mopar guy so carbs it is!

(FI vs CARB! .....it’s like the new moparts tube K topic!! laugh2)


I got the Holley HP unit.. have MPFI and pretty much all the bells and whistles... love it so far.. still
learning all the different things it will do,, got it on my Rampage
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I for one have been around long enough to remember the issues you had with it when you switched over. Thankfully you found the right guy to get you straightened out. Many don’t and sell it for 50% face value.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: 383man] #2752276
03/15/20 06:35 PM
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We have built both 400/512 and 440/512's and one 440/526.....All were 440Source....We have built a lot of them....The 512 is a beast over a 496, and so is the 526...You want tire frying killer power....Go big...We have also noticed the cap walk with the 440 is better than the 400....I always thought it would be the opposite. All of are's are done with girdles and good parts...All are kept to 6700rpm or less..

The one we have not done is a 440/543....A 4.5" crank is a big crank in a stock block.....I would love to hear feedback on one of these


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2752282
03/15/20 06:39 PM
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That was basically my error... I hooked up a wire wrong and I didnt have it set to remember
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Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2752305
03/15/20 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer






I for one have been around long enough to remember the issues you had with it when you switched over. Thankfully you found the right guy to get you straightened out. Many don’t and sell it for 50% face value.


.....and that’s why I run carbs and ancient non programmable ignitions etc on my car. While I can appreciate the technology available today (Grid would be sweet!), it would probably be just one more thing to go “wrong” for me at the track. My Racepak has given me enough grief! At least I don’t “need” it for the car to perform.

Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: J_BODY] #2752327
03/15/20 08:35 PM
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I can't resist,,,, I LOVE my Street car with EFI, my carb was very well tuned for street strip, this Hilborn efi is AWESOME. no carb can do what this does.

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1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: AndyF] #2752446
03/16/20 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by Warhawk
Originally Posted by AndyF
I'd start with a 4.25 crank and Trick Flow 240 heads and go from there. Find a set of pistons that give you 9.50 to 10.0 for compression and then select rods that fit. I recommend a hyd roller cam for a street/strip type of engine, maybe something around 240@050. If you have the space I'd use a Trick Flow intake and then top it off with a Holley Sniper setup and a Holley Hyperspark distributor. An engine like that should make at least 600/600 for hp and torque and be very easy to drive on the street.



I have a copy of your book so dog-eared that I have to buy another. Best engine book I have read. I was also thinking of the Hyperspark and sniper. That would make a neat combination I think.


Thanks. If I updated that book today I would add a whole chapter on EFI and would highly recommend that everyone ditch their carbs and switch to a Sniper. I hate to see people spending $12,000 for a new 500 inch stroker engine and then wearing it out in a few thousand miles because their double pumper dumps so much extra fuel into the engine. I have an engine in the shop right now that was ruined by running rich. The customer said he only had 500 miles on it but it is wore out. He is switching to EFI.


I could not agree more. My business has become very busy now with the Sniper installs. My 512 is a totally different animal now with the Sniper and timing control.


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Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: Dragula] #2752457
03/16/20 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragula
We have built both 400/512 and 440/512's and one 440/526.....All were 440Source....We have built a lot of them....The 512 is a beast over a 496, and so is the 526...You want tire frying killer power....Go big...We have also noticed the cap walk with the 440 is better than the 400....I always thought it would be the opposite. All of are's are done with girdles and good parts...All are kept to 6700rpm or less..

The one we have not done is a 440/543....A 4.5" crank is a big crank in a stock block.....I would love to hear feedback on one of these


question, I have a aftermarket "b" block, what is the biggest stroke crank i can get to fit with a 55mm cam? Can you get a 4.5 crank to fit? I would love to have a 572

Thanks
Joe


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Re: Best Big block stroker? [Re: sr4440] #2752532
03/16/20 01:09 PM
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Bend,OR USA
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I would say it depends on which rods your using and which size rod journals your using, a forged steel BB Chevy H beam rod might fit where a aluminum Mopar hemi rod might not scope
I'm thinking of having a 4.5 stroke crankshaft made with either 2.00 or 2.100 rod journal sizes and use a BME custom aluminum rod to work in a pump gas street 572 C.I. motor work

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