Warning, "The Emperor has no clothes" is approaching forbidden territory.

And the death rate accuracy only effects the dead.

AMEN!!!!

You sound desperate for a game-changer.

Thursday went to a 'Mongolian' type grill for some food. This was NOT a Chang's Mongolian Grill.
BIG sign at door said
"If you are sick, please please stay outside."
"If you need to cough or sneeze please leave the store before hand"
"If you cough or sneeze and do not cover you will be asked to leave. One time no warning"

Of course, you know my Hay Fever just had to kick into over drive.....

Are you referring to anyone particular in the highest risk group?

In any case, media makes it better or worse. It just depends on your view on it. I'm less than an hour from where all the cruise ships dock to come into port. Hearing about soo many folks getting contaminated on it and watching on the news how this Coronavirus went world wide in less than 6 weeks was un-nerving. At the same time as I work at a grocery store and see grown adults pretty much have a knife fight over toilet paper and hand sanitizer has made the last boring week of my shift pretty entertaining.

A buddy lives in Microsoft city, Redmond WA, just across the line, 132 Ave NE in Kirkland. His wife is a Real Estate Broker/Agent. She has, as of last Friday, listed 20 new homes in the last week. Two reasons.

1. People are wanting to leave the population dense greater Kirkland/Redmond city area.

2. A lot of Microsoft Millionaires are NOT real millionaires. They are living on money borrowed against Stock Options and the stock prices have dropped like a lead weight. If Microsoft calls the options and they must pay..... This same thing happened in 2008.

Microsoft stopped issuing stock options over 15 years ago.

Yea id hate to be in the middle of it like some, but its hungry and its gonna eat.

I lived 2 miles away from that nursing home for 25 years up until 2017. My ex-in-laws live about 1/2 mile from it. In the 1990’s I looked at home that BORDERS THE PROPERTY That was for sale......I can’t imagine the feeling of people in the immediate neighborhood. 103 virus victims at that facility and 14 deaths so far....that’s a horrible death rate!

The have (or HAD) an annual car show at the facility that was done for the old people living there. I would doubt that it will continue.

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/made-china-coronavirus-chaos-could-have-been-avoided-130422

Sample quote

Setting the stage for the perfect storm, the city of Wuhan had been preparing its annual mass banquet. To celebrate the twentieth anniversary, local organizers had attempted “to break a world record for the largest number of dishes served.” The significance of this event cannot be overstated. For at least three weeks prior to the banquet on January 18, 2020, Wuhan authorities had been informed of the virus spreading in the city.

The SARS experience and common sense would have dictated taking immediate measures to protect public health. Instead, Wuhan authorities did the unthinkable: issuing orders to suppress the news and covering-up the gravity of the outbreak.

End quote

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-coronavirus-shouldnt-panic.html

10 reasons not to panic

We have yet to agree collectively on what actually defines "panic".

So far it seems panic is mainly what someone else does proactively that another has not done or thought about, ie buying a months worth of toilet paper to reduce vissits to a local store is not "panic", unless you also don't buy green bananas.

For instance, many believe one should not "panic" in a mass shooting, except those who first run out in a "panic", could often improve their chances of surviving, bet those that "smartly" hid in the bathrooms at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, wish they had headed for the exits instead.

My definition of "panic" here so far, frozen and afraid to do anything, like "deer in the headlights."

Repeating the China downturn as a positive example is at this point very misleading, the US is not a authoritarian state, we would have a very tough time locking down entire regions legally, and besides, that horse has already left the barn it appears.


I label the link propaganda ":It is still unclear what the death rate may be. Be it could be lower than some estimates so far." or CYA or .1% of 6.5 billion is only 65,000,000 deaths, so big deal?

With continued poor government action we may be looking at an Italy situation shortly. Since Korea may be a model and has tested close to 200000 people with 50 deaths, Italy with 300 deaths may have up to 50,000 cases. With flights to Italy still not restricted, we will have additional tourists infecting unaffected regions (mine just got it and kids at sons school now exposed). WE need to try to delay until June/July when warmer months may hinder the spread as Singapore and Malaysia (hot places) are faring better. We dont want this. However, as a health professional and realist with study of this things epidemiology, we may have a rough go without better management.

Our leader is foolishly managing this situation. Where are those millions of "beautiful" tests. And god forbid a cruise ship with American citizens docks and doubles his numbers???

We should not panic this disease, just we know how to prevent it.

Pretty much. It's already out of containment. It's a new virus, so we have no historical immunity to it like we do the flu. The question isn't "if", it's "when". I won't/can't comment on the response from the administration :p

The name of the game is to try to slow the spread as much as we can so we don't overwhelm the healthcare system.

https://medium.com/@amwren/forget-about-the-death-rate-this-is-why-you-should-be-worried-about-the-coronavirus-890fbf9c4de6
https://medium.com/@davetroy/why-we-should-care-commonly-asked-questions-and-answers-about-covid-19-6b166f1876e9
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236095180459003909.html

I live in Italy...schools are closed, people are requested to stay home and work from home, restaurants and cinemas closed, no sports, no outside activities...no museums and churches, no funerals. Shopping centers closed on week ends. I live near the center of the epidemy, about 30 miles, but in my town just 3 persons affected. there are about 100 deaths a day, with 1000 new persons affected. Most of the deaths are old persons with serious deseases, not connected with the virus. I was planning to be in the US for the Spring Fling, but it would be crazy for me to leave now.
Trouble is that while the virus was confined in northern Italy, some idiots decided to reach the south Italy, so now whole Italy is infected.
To tell the truth, there are so many cases reported because our health service is making thousands and thousands of tests, so its obvious that there are many positives. In most other countries, US, Germany, France and so on, there are very few tests done, so positives are few. Many deaths have been attributed to pneumonia, while Corona was probably the culprit.
Things are not easy for us, but we will survive this problem.

stephen king coronavirus the stand comparison

f'n h*ck

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236933818654896129.html

One of the local stores has a sign out now

"No returns on toilet paper"

LOL

Idiots still loading up on the stuff.