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Powder coating chassis #274854
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Guys need to know if my mild steel full tube chassis will certify if I powder coat it, looking for it to certify to 7.50

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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: SD800] #274855
04/02/09 08:33 AM
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I dont see why not, he will scrape the coating off
in 1 place to get a true reading then he will just
subtract the coating thickness, that what he did with
my painted chassis. Yoy might find it harder to see
cracks in the chassis with the powder coating but I
dont know for sure

Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: SD800] #274856
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Guys need to know if my mild steel full tube chassis will certify if I powder coat it, looking for it to certify to 7.50




Mild steel should be OK. I wouldn't powder coat a 4130 chassis as the heat treat characteristics start changing at around 450°F. I have a Metals Handbook that shows a drop in strength for 4140 (I know it's not the exact same alloy) and also toughness. Strange property to lose both as they usually go in opposite directions. There are some lower temperature powder coating materials available to keep it under 400°F.


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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: mr_340] #274857
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Guys need to know if my mild steel full tube chassis will certify if I powder coat it, looking for it to certify to 7.50




Mild steel should be OK. I wouldn't powder coat a 4130 chassis as the heat treat characteristics start changing at around 450°F. I have a Metals Handbook that shows a drop in strength for 4140 (I know it's not the exact same alloy) and also toughness. Strange property to lose both as they usually go in opposite directions. There are some lower temperature powder coating materials available to keep it under 400°F.



Most powder coatings cure at 375 degrees F or below, some as low as 300.

Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: mracer360] #274858
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http://www.rohmhaas.com/wcm/products/product_detail.page?product=1120236&application=1120039

You are right, most I found were below 400 F. They must have come down in curing temperatures over the last ten years since I had any done. This one was 500 F, but is not typical. How good are the ovens to control the temperature?


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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: mr_340] #274859
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The ovens are so damn complicated now, they can control everything, humidity, temp, time, etc. Thats part of the reason they cost a fortune.

Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: The Avg. Valiant] #274860
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The ovens are so damn complicated now, they can control everything, humidity, temp, time, etc. Thats part of the reason they cost a fortune.




I had a intake powder coated, the process called for
325 and it was dead on for the time to cook with in
a couple degrees.
I also have seen power coated chassis being certed
when I got mine done the last time... he passed

Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: MR_P_BODY] #274861
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I had mine certified and then powdercoated it. Then he came back and put on the sticker. I tried
to send a picture but it is to big Look on dragracecity.com under new delay box cars. I have a picture of the chasis tag at the door

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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: 72 Dodge demon] #274862
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Mine was just cirt last mounth, it is hammer toned powder coated and it pasted just fine.
(three years)

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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: JoWeTu_6] #274863
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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: JoWeTu_6] #274864
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Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: SD800] #274865
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It will cert. for the NHRA. I do certs in the chicago area. I was told that IHRA have changed their cert and it won't for them. For now you're good for a NHRA cert.

Re: Powder coating chassis [Re: Ted P] #274866
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It will cert. for the NHRA. I do certs in the chicago area. I was told that IHRA have changed their cert and it won't for them. For now you're good for a NHRA cert.




Isnt it sorta supid that its powder coated and they
(IHRA) wont cert it, all they need to do is scrap the
powder coating off to get the base line then shoot
through the coating from there on, thats all they did
for my painted chassis. I cant imagine the IHRA saying
sorry your chassis is scrap







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