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COVID-19 hits older men, smokers harder #2747499
02/28/20 07:28 PM
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-02-coronavirus-men-older-people-hardest.html

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Men have died from coronavirus at nearly twice the rate as women, and the virus has been shown to sicken and kill older folks at a greater rate than young people, according to data from China.

The coronavirus death rate among men in China stands at 2.8%, compared with 1.7% among women, according to a report last week from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

About 80% of people who have died from the virus in China were over 60 years of age, China's National Health Commission has reported. Studies in The Lancet found an average age of 55 among Chinese citizens who've developed pneumonia as a result of coronavirus infection.
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For example, men in China smoke at a much higher rate than women, research has shown. More than half of Chinese men smoke, compared with around 3% of women.

It turns out smoking activates a receptor used by the coronavirus to infect human cells, ACE-2, Poland said.

"That is the speculation behind why we are seeing such an unreasonably high severe case and fatality rate inside China," Poland noted.

If this is so, then gender differences in coronavirus illness and death might not be as striking in the United States, where around 15% of men smoke compared with 12% of women.

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http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/study-72000-covid-19-patients-finds-23-death-rate

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Of the confirmed cases, 1,023 patients—all in critical condition—died from the virus, which results in a CFR (case-fatality rate ) of 2.3%.
The CFR jumped considerably among older patients, to 14.8% in patients 80 and older, and 8.0% in patients ages 70 to 79.
Among the critically ill, the CFR was 49.0%.

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Young people under age 19 are showing a very low death rate of 0.1% or so.
These young people may show little or no symptoms,
and may be therefore key to spreading the virus.
As with serious flu, it might greatly help to close schools, like Japan already has.

Re: COVID-19 hits older men, smokers harder [Re: 360view] #2747510
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I already figured this virus could easily kill me. 63, already have COPD and have had pneumonia about 5 times already. I'm a prime candidate, however, I feel that this virus, like other flu viruses has a season and will probably subside as the weather gets warmer. Or on the flip side if it does start spreading I actually have a place to go to where there isn't anyone else around.
I've also heard but don't know how true it is, that a dog has been identified as having the virus.


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Re: COVID-19 hits older men, smokers harder [Re: Guitar Jones] #2747514
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Judging by the air quality in China, you might as well say that everyone smokes.

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Originally Posted by TrackPack
Judging by the air quality in China, you might as well say that everyone smokes.


^This.

Trying to come up with numbers for infection rates without controlling for the environment is useless. Way too many other factors at play here that just whether or not you smoke. Rates of infection out of 1st world nations like South Korea and Japan would be more applicable.


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Ok, so:

1, Can one get the disease more then once?

2. Can mosquitoes transmit it?

3. Sounds like if one is in the high risk group above , having both of the current pneumonia vaccines would be wise? ( I've only had one of the two)


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Just mother natures way of keeping order and thinning the heard from time to time.

History shows it.

A good trial run for something really bad. Look what a simple virus has done?


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Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
Just mother natures way of keeping order and thinning the heard from time to time.

History shows it.

A good trial run for something really bad. Look what a simple virus has done?



Interesting the way it seems to target the old.

I think I see a lesson there. work


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Sounds like a good summer to hunker down, lock the main gate and spend the summer on the mopar projects and let the one above sort things out. I could probably go a year or better without leaving my property I hope many others are equally prepared.


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How many people die from the regular flu every year.


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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
How many people die from the regular flu every year.


I thought I heard on the ABC news tonite - 60k .. eek

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This might give some who put 1k down on a 300k home, + two leased SUV-s, $200 a month tv bill, 200 family cell plan bill, who couldnt buy a bag of groceries for his family if they were layed off for two weeks a bit more perspective of whats important in life. But its doubtful.

On the upswing, maybe some NOS parts I need will come down in price.


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potHead ... those numbers you throw out might be to the extreme BUT many MANY people are living from paycheck to paycheck !

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Well humans collectively have also shown we will never all get along, extreme global change of any kind has never came fully on the shoulders of us humans.

If this or another virus came along and knocked 25% of the worlds population we would change paths on a global scale. Weather a virus, space collision, bring it on, were not getting it done on our own.

Come visit doc, but ya got to bring something to the table or you might end up being fertilizer in my garden.


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Originally Posted by TrackPack
Judging by the air quality in China, you might as well say that everyone smokes.





How true!, having been in China/SE Asia the air pollution/quality is absolutely horrible, you have to experience it to comprehend how bad it really is, as far as smoking being a contributor to the virus's effects, Chinese cigarettes come in 2 variety's, low tar and high tar, the low tar cigs are like smoking unfiltered Camel cigs...horrible!

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Originally Posted by jcc
Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
Just mother natures way of keeping order and thinning the heard from time to time.

History shows it.

A good trial run for something really bad. Look what a simple virus has done?



Interesting the way it seems to target the old.

I think I see a lesson there. work


Everything targets the young and the old first, even the trash in our society target them first. On a positive note I heard today it is illegal to eat dogs and cats in China for now, so things should get better fast. What a s hole.

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Smoking kills, it has for years.

When it comes to the basics of health as a society, start there.

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Originally Posted by 4406bbl


Everything targets the young and the old first, even the trash in our society target them first. On a positive note I heard today it is illegal to eat dogs and cats in China for now, so things should get better fast. What a s hole.


It was wild Bats in the open meat market that is said to have started this. They do taste like chicken when roasted.


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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
Originally Posted by jcc
Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead
Just mother natures way of keeping order and thinning the heard from time to time.

History shows it.

A good trial run for something really bad. Look what a simple virus has done?



Interesting the way it seems to target the old.

I think I see a lesson there. work


Everything targets the young and the old first, even the trash in our society target them first. On a positive note I heard today it is illegal to eat dogs and cats in China for now, so things should get better fast. What a s hole.


But not this time according to early reports.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Originally Posted by Dave_J
Originally Posted by 4406bbl


Everything targets the young and the old first, even the trash in our society target them first. On a positive note I heard today it is illegal to eat dogs and cats in China for now, so things should get better fast. What a s hole.


It was wild Bats in the open meat market that is said to have started this. They do taste like chicken when roasted.

Are chickens that scarce that they have to eat bats? I'll never understand people.


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