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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: CMcAllister] #2745025
02/20/20 07:21 PM
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I bought a car once unseen and I can tell you I'll never do it again. I had to re-do most of the car.
I also had a situation with another car where we each towed 5 hours one way to meet half way between our houses. Car was complete junk, nothing like the photos.
I didn't know wether to be mad or to be embarrassed for backing out of the deal so I just got in the truck confused and drove 5 hours home lol. No fun and a lot of gas money.


1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
Re: Buying a used race car [Re: ProSport] #2745031
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My son, myself, and his car sick girlfriend left from Pa right after he got off work on midnight shift and towed a trailer deep into North Carolina to check out a heads up class Duster. I Liked the car, negotiated the deal, paid for it, loaded it up in my trailer and drove back to Pa five years ago. We got home right before midnight. I drove all but 100 miles and I can honestly say I will never do that again without a sleepover somewhere during the trip. Towing an empty box trailer on a rainy windy night is not an enjoyable trip.


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: Smoparmike] #2745065
02/20/20 10:09 PM
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I did a trade even up 5 hours away, one way. Same, lot's of E-mails, phone calls, videos back and forth. Traded cars sight unseen other than pics/video on E-mail. Could have not been a better deal (for me). Honesty on both parties is the key to a good transaction.

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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: Tempest] #2745713
02/23/20 11:13 AM
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Tempest, that's a beautiful car.


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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: ProSport] #2745748
02/23/20 01:15 PM
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I bought my Avenger from a fellow on the east coast of Canada, lots of pics and phone calls. He met me in Toronto. Picked up my buddy in Minneapolis and we drove straight thru, I think it was a 3300 mile round trip. The car was even better than I imagined, and that’s is a first for me. Seller and his wife were great to deal with, very nice people. Still talk to them once in a while. But have had a few not so nice encounters. I guess you takes your chances... Jim


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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: BANDIT] #2745778
02/23/20 02:59 PM
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i still have 3 race cars for sale on here and racing junk,there going back on ebay,im a straight up honest guy and will tell you anything wrong with them,im done with racing,want a street car to get into at anytime or day and enjoy,most race car i bought was sight unseen,had to redo everything,i dont see how people sell junk,and there down right filty and dirty,when i sell a car its very clean,even when i sell parts there very clean,most parts i buy again,there filty and dirty

Re: Buying a used race car [Re: dart games] #2746060
02/24/20 12:16 PM
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it does kind of irk me when you go to the swaps, that guys don't bother to clean up stuff, but still want premium prices.
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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: moparx] #2746094
02/24/20 02:21 PM
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Pictures of parts in for sale ads - parts laying in the dirt and leaves in the yard... realcrazy Priceless.


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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: CMcAllister] #2746107
02/24/20 02:45 PM
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you buy a race car at the race track or you are asking to get ripped off

Re: Buying a used race car [Re: HEMI472] #2746115
02/24/20 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HEMI472
you buy a race car at the race track or you are asking to get ripped off


BINGO. And DON'T LET IT OUT OF YOUR SIGHT after the deal is made. Do NOT go get your trailer and go pick it up a few days later.

Same thing if you're buying an engine out of a car.

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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: Tempest] #2746132
02/24/20 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tempest
I did a trade even up 5 hours away, one way. Same, lot's of E-mails, phone calls, videos back and forth. Traded cars sight unseen other than pics/video on E-mail. Could have not been a better deal (for me). Honesty on both parties is the key to a good transaction.



I really like the look of this car, stock car, no scoop, has the side molding and hood ornament, but also a big tire. Nice blend of stock and performance. do you have more pics?


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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: HemiDart68] #2746585
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I bought a 'cuda after only seeing it race a few times. A US built car, sent downunder, raced by a guy who had too much money i guess. I bought it as a roller, stripped it, refined some of the rough engineering, set the car up as it should of been & put my bracket motor into it. A change of colour & year & you'd hardly recognise it. I bought it for the right price, just glad i'm mechanically minded & was able to do 90% of the work myself, would require a mortage if you were to pay someone to mess with it like i did.

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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: rebel] #2746620
02/26/20 09:27 AM
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Sold my Mirada for $7500 as a “turn key roller”. Was carefully explained that yes it runs, and yes the engine needs freshened, like new short block freshened. The guy still raced it for two years before he sold it. Not bad for a package that ran into the 9s close to sea level.

Re: Buying a used race car [Re: J_BODY] #2746624
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Originally Posted by J_BODY
Sold my Mirada for $7500 as a “turn key roller”. Was carefully explained that yes it runs, and yes the engine needs freshened, like new short block freshened. The guy still raced it for two years before he sold it. Not bad for a package that ran into the 9s close to sea level.



Still running .. I don't think they messed with motor yet


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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: bigdad] #2746632
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My strategy normally is:
a. Everything in black and white (print) from the start
b. Best if subtle "trip wires" are included in communications
c. decide early how many trips need to be triggered to just run away
d. As deal progresses, move to voice contact
e. If deal progresses further, go face to face

If seller is a fast talker, smooth, or over the top "nice", etc, I usually pass, most con men are on their best behavior when dealing.
When seller beats around the bush, don't forget the "bush" is what they don't want to address or you to discover
Listen to your gut.
And worst aspect, good deals don't last long.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Buying a used race car [Re: jcc] #2746640
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Of the 8 race cars i've bought over the years every single one of them has been without an engine and transmission. That's the only way I would buy one.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: pittsburghracer] #2746775
02/26/20 04:46 PM
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I think anyone who has raced more than 5 minutes in their life has been screwed by some unscrupulous copulation head thief. I wish there was a drag racing court that people could either find resolution on misunderstandings, or prosecute the dirt bags with nationwide exclusion from any race track, period.

Re: Buying a used race car [Re: dthemi] #2746852
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I my right and left hands and both feet work well on unscrupulous parts and car dealers and sellers convincing them to do the right thing from then on whistlingcatfight devil


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Re: Buying a used race car [Re: Cab_Burge] #2746868
02/26/20 08:58 PM
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So Near, Yet So Far
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Bought my racecar in the mid-'90s after seeing its ad in Dragster - it was in MD, I was in CA. Long conversation with owner, who spoke knowledgeably and passed the interview.
Drove out there & it was exactly what I'd expected from our conversation.
In fact, better than expected, due to an offhand comment made after purchase (see sig pic).

My Hemi car was bought in person in the '80s; when I came back (400 miles) to get it, some of the Day2 parts had been removed, but he'd gotten it running & driving, and I drove it home.
Basically a wash on that, and it was a good deal. Heck, 35 years later, it was a great deal !

Most recent car purchase, I couldn't inspect personally; had several detailed phone conversations with seller, photos, video, again passed the interview.
He actually brought the car to me on his way to buy its replacement after I sent a deposit.
Several significant & obvious flaws he claimed to not know about, so price was re-negotiated. All the pre-purchase visuals carefully avoided the trouble spots
Subsequently also had to rebuild the trans, replace junk T-bars & rear springs, and fix other things that were outright lied about.
Dude was/is an absolute BS artist & liar (he's not an active Moparts member, BTW); but there's a lot of the car that's perfect, and I haven't seen another that I like better.
But it's apparent to me that society has changed.

Still, I know there are good & honest folks out there, just from dealing with some on this forum.

Re: Buying a used race car [Re: HemiDart68] #2746911
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