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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
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12/27/19 09:58 AM
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
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12/30/19 08:11 PM
12/30/19 08:11 PM
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Springtown Pa
Ray408G3Hemi
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Anyone come out with a timing set to do away with the cam phaser on VVT motors yet? I was hoping something would come out after SEMA or PRI but have not heard or seen anything. I'm really surprised no one has done this yet. And I'm not talking about the kit that uses a non-vvt cam in a vvt engine. This Spring Ric (ric3xrt) is coming out with his set up some time in March, He's got 25k miles on one the of prototypes and 12k on another He's also going to offer a service on rebuilding and setting the phasre up so it goes from 5* advance to 24* retard instead of 0* to 29* . Here's a video he did on the stock phaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug7MCLccUHk&t=9sHere's the BGE on 5.7 block video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRGUXbp4ls....just think a 2.225 Intake and 1 .65 exhause valve in a 3.917 bore.....Got to love A Hemi.
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1971 Boss 351 Mustang 11.20@115mph
1993 Lightning 10.61 @ 129mph 408Ci A3 headed NA
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2009 Ram 9.65@144MPH 463CI G3 NA
2010 Challenger 9.91 @ 139MPH 408CI G3ci NA
2019 F150 (local dealer's Lightning package) ..11.90s
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
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12/31/19 01:45 PM
12/31/19 01:45 PM
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Go with the BGE, this system is not that complicated (I am having some trouble with one right now but have done a bunch of trouble free ones), you get more cubes, less valve shrouding and a much sturdier block.
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
#2731693
01/10/20 11:08 AM
01/10/20 11:08 AM
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Springtown Pa
Ray408G3Hemi
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Im building a Procharger motor and torn between a 5.7 non-vvt or a BGE block. I have both blocks. I have a billet 3.795 crank so its 370 in the 5.7 or 401 in the BGE. I really want the extra cubes of the BGE but don't know about the timing set up. Im a machinist so I am considering building a gear drive. Steff and Jesel both make belt drives so that's something to consider also. Is Ric3xrt set up a modified piece or will it be manufactured by someone? Thanks for the info! Modified piece uses a Progear 4000 set for a 6.1 ,it's not hard to make, Dave's right about the VVT once it's locked it's not going any where, I've seen Ric lock them with a roll pin,
1963 Thunderbolt 496FE 10.80 (still a work in progress)
1968 Mustang slow a$$ 428 FE
1971 Boss 351 Mustang 11.20@115mph
1993 Lightning 10.61 @ 129mph 408Ci A3 headed NA
1996 Viper GTS
2001 Lightning 8.99 @ 155MPH 5.4 Mod Motor
2009 Ram 9.65@144MPH 463CI G3 NA
2010 Challenger 9.91 @ 139MPH 408CI G3ci NA
2019 F150 (local dealer's Lightning package) ..11.90s
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
#2743388
02/15/20 11:20 PM
02/15/20 11:20 PM
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Thanks for the reply's. I'm a machinist so I can make whatever I need. Seriously thinking about a gear drive that will fit under the stock cover. Mounting holes already exist for the mounting plate so I don't think it would be difficult. Well we want pics of how you do it, if and when you do...Tim
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: astjp2]
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02/16/20 09:45 AM
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fbs63
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Thanks for the reply's. I'm a machinist so I can make whatever I need. Seriously thinking about a gear drive that will fit under the stock cover. Mounting holes already exist for the mounting plate so I don't think it would be difficult. Well we want pics of how you do it, if and when you do...Tim Just need to put a crank in the block and figure out the crank gear offset and I will have the gear drive complete. I will post pics when I'm done.
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
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02/16/20 10:42 PM
02/16/20 10:42 PM
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So this is strictly for drag racing? Or are u gonna run locked out VVT on the street as well? Not a daily I'm assuming?
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All motor 11.27 @ 125 mph 1.69 60ft on street tires
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Re: VVT delete timing set
[Re: fbs63]
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02/19/20 08:16 AM
02/19/20 08:16 AM
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Michigan
ghinmi
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I've been running vvt locked for 29,900 miles now. Using the Comp phaser lock kit. I degreed the cam by broaching new keyways in the lower sprocket.
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