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Re: Steering Stability [Re: W.I.N. racing] #2740095
02/05/20 06:30 PM
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Here’s the printout from the alignment shop. Yes, with a modified suspension some tweaks are in order. There’s a guy on the west side of town that does a lot of street rod suspensions as well as lowered vehicles. I’ll give him a shout.

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Re: Steering Stability [Re: dart4forte] #2740100
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You need more positive caster. I would like to see 3 degrees at least.

Re: Steering Stability [Re: NITROUSN] #2740115
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3 degrees positive caster from a stock type suspension is pretty hard to get, let alone from a lowered truck. Your numbers don't look bad and from what you describe I would suspect something more like a tire problem. Can you swap some wheels and tires from a known good driver?


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Re: Steering Stability [Re: Guitar Jones] #2740127
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I have the front end up and plan to check the front wheel bearings and swap tires. I pretty much ruled out an out of round wheel in that when they were balanced a wheel is sure would of showed up.

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Re: Steering Stability [Re: dart4forte] #2740497
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Originally Posted by dart4forte
I have the front end up and plan to check the front wheel bearings and swap tires. I pretty much ruled out an out of round wheel in that when they were balanced a wheel is sure would of showed up.

Yeah a wheel would have showed up but may still balance OK. Maybe the guy operating the balancer didn't give [censored]. A broken belt in a tire may not have shown up or refer back to the original guy running the balancer.
I seriously doubt that since your issue only manifests at a certain speed ( and a low speed at that) and then clears up that you have an alignment issue.


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The Scamp is sold, now just two old trucks and one new one.
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NP435, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Magnum 5.2 MPI and NV4500 coming soon.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Steering Stability [Re: Guitar Jones] #2740567
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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by dart4forte
I have the front end up and plan to check the front wheel bearings and swap tires. I pretty much ruled out an out of round wheel in that when they were balanced a wheel is sure would of showed up.

Yeah a wheel would have showed up but may still balance OK. Maybe the guy operating the balancer didn't give [censored]. A broken belt in a tire may not have shown up or refer back to the original guy running the balancer.
I seriously doubt that since your issue only manifests at a certain speed ( and a low speed at that) and then clears up that you have an alignment issue.


I agree

Re: Steering Stability [Re: dart4forte] #2742890
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Ok, earlier in the week I cut out the angle iron that someone welded to the frame connecting to the core support. Then installed the steering box bracket. Took it out for a drive around side streets the the freeway. Wobble I’d gone. I will pursue adding a little more camber or castor. Also, the going to do some boxing in The vicinity of the box.

Re: Steering Stability [Re: dart4forte] #2745512
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power or manual steering? Though all Dodge trucks back then specified too little caster, usually manual steer spec's less because the higher caster goes so does steering effort...
I had a 79 years ago back when I was an alignment guy, that was manual steer. One day we were slow at work so the boss let me throw my truck up there on the rack and "hang the heads on it"... I planned on "doing" an alignment, though it drove fine and the tires were not wearing... all stock suspension, though I had replaced the springs a while earlier since I had 1 break on me (the result of it originally being a /6 truck that I swapped a smallblock V8 into) They had been on plenty of months and miles that they had settled as much was to be expected.... I was quite surprised when I saw how bad the alignment was as compared to factory specs.... I decided to just do a "toe and go" on it and call it good, because it surprisingly drove so well.... its been years/ but as I remember, everything was in negative territory, with a big "spread" side to side (which is ultimately where most "pulls" come from) I couldn't believe it drove as well as it did/ so that was one (of very few) that I left alone and didn't make any adjustments to (other than setting toe)

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