Re: Enclosed trailer advice?
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Get a 24' trailer with a side door, if you don't you'll wish you had, if you do you'll be glad you did.
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Re: Enclosed trailer advice?
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02/08/20 07:39 PM
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Best money I spent was for the full length E-track, luggage doors and wheel straps. No crawling under the car to strap down.
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Tow Vehicle ?
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02/09/20 05:40 AM
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What is your tow vehicle ? That is where you start. Take the curb weight of the vehicle you are hauling - multiply it by 125% - deduct that weight from the tow rating of your tow vehicle. What remains is the curb weight of a trailer you can safely tow. I pull a trailer every day - I see accidents usually caused by failure to control a tow vehicle in an emergency stop. After you figure that the curb weight is of a trailer you can safely tow - that will determine the type of trailer you buy. Steel frame or aluminum. What I spec on my custom car hauler enclosed trailers: 12' on center for floor - walls ceiling Third frame member continuous from center of tongue to first axle 5 foot tongue Nosecone on coffin front ( increase mpg of tow vehicle by 1 to 2 miles ) .040" aluminum skin screwed to each structural member inside & out on sides - inside on floor One piece roof - no roof vents ( leak points) - adjustable aluminum side vents at front & rear both sides Interior overhead led lighting with switch at side and rear entry Flush entry doors on passenger & curb sides minimum 40" wide set back 48" from front Etrac mounted full trailer width every four feet on trailer floor - I install after trailer delivery with 1/4" nut and bolt thru wood floor I have always loaded & unload by wireless remote control electric winch I park on an uphill grade - when loading this keeps tension on the winch cable so vehicle doesn't roll into the trailer and when unloading this helps the vehicle roll out easily while attached to the winch line 12VDC deep cycle battery for winch charged off tow vehicle at the front of the trailer Jim
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
[Re: Trulyvintage]
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02/09/20 11:34 AM
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I was lucky to inherit a 24' Pace trailer from my Dad that has worked well for towing a varied array of mopars, a-body, b-body, e-body, 79 Cordoba, 79 LRE (it has an extra high roof so stacks clear). In my opinion the thing that makes it universally good is having a full size door at the front on BOTH sides. Makes the strapping down much easier when you can easily walk in from both sides and also lay down without banging into the walls. Having on both sides also works well depending on where you park and possibly being blocked access to door. The side cutout doors I see people put in are slick but if you load cars of different dimensions, no guarantee they will line up. My a-bodys I can squeeze out the door with window open, although not as easy as my stomach gets larger. The best way to load is to winch in. Once you get good at the setup, it takes no time to do. Just remember to take the key out before rolling in or have a trunk key on quick disconnect if you want to get in the trunk after loading. A few times I had to ask my girls to climb in the car to grab the key. I use mine as a permanent garage for one of my a-bodys and drive it in and out all the time. Having the 24' allows me to store crates with tie downs, the hitch load bars, etc up front and out of the way. That extra length is so nice to have.
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
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02/09/20 11:36 PM
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One suggestion to add: if you’re re in the snow states, get a curved roof. Reduces the chance of standing water during thaw/freeze cycles.
I have a curved roof 20’, 10k axles, winch, etrac and D-ring equipped trailer. Have two roof vents which I believe are worth having to allow balancing of interior vs exterior temps- a good thing to consider if using it for storage, besides transport. A street door and an extra 4’ would be nice, but this unit was the best deal I could find when was needing something and don’t regret it one bit.
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
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02/10/20 05:18 PM
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I agree w/ everyone on the 24' length. That's what I have and I couldn't imagine anything smaller. Do NOT get a black trailer. You'll regret it come summer time.
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
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02/10/20 08:53 PM
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I do not ever recall hearing anyone say "man I wished I would have bought a shorter trailer". IMO buy the largest trailer you can comfortable tow. I started at 24 up to a 36'er now and have some spare room for now..
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
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02/11/20 08:34 AM
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How about some chit chat about tires ? I’ve got to reTIRE a 6x10 (14”) and 2 24 footers... both Haulmarks ... one is a real older one(mid 90’s) and the other is a 07.... 15’s
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
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02/11/20 09:56 AM
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How about some chit chat about tires ? I’ve got to reTIRE a 6x10 (14”) and 2 24 footers... both Haulmarks ... one is a real older one(mid 90’s) and the other is a 07.... 15’s That is simple, get the biggest most heavy duty tires possible. At least 16". I have 15s and regret that I did not know what I know now when I ordered my trailer years go.
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/11/20 10:34 AM
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I like these Goodyear Endurance Trailer Tire
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/11/20 10:37 AM
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And UNLESS the tires are overloaded... or waaay under inflated....I don’t understand the failures that many report...
Exactly. My 28' Stealth that I bought new in 2012 has 15's. It's been all over the Northeast, as far south as Maryland, as far west as Chicago. I've never had a tire issue. It's actually still riding on the factory installed Westlake tires. I'm replacing them this year due to age, but there is nothing wrong with them otherwise. I check tire pressures before I leave home, and before I leave the track. I agree as stated though, 24' minimum for sure. I have the 28 as I drag along a golf cart...but that's going away as soon as I get a few spare minutes to build a tow cart for a fuel jug for my minibike. The only things I would suggest are a 110v light package, and torsion axles for sure.
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Re: Tow Vehicle ?
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/11/20 02:26 PM
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All the trailer tires I've had issues with was due to their age(3 yrs or older), not wear or over loading. the best 15 inch trailer tires I've found have a maximum load rating of E which is from 2800 up to 2880 Lbs. depending on the brand is what I see out here on the west coast, my current trailer with the Duster in it with tools, gen set, spare 8 spare car and trailer tires other extra parts weighed around 8650lbs on both axles and it would add right at 700 Lbs. onto the rear truck axle and remove 300 lbs. from the front axle on the truck. 4x2800=11,000 tire carrying ability hauling 8800 lbs. max so no overload correct It use to be all trailers tires that I could find or buy where made in China, not sure about now. I replaced all four last year and thought I was buying American made, but not so I've had three enclosed car trailers, two 24 ft.10,000 GVW and one 22Ft 7000 lb. GVW, I decided to replace the C rated tires on the 22ft. trailer when they had less than a 1000 miles on them due to weighing it with some of my Son in laws household stuff and his 1981 El Camino type car with no motor or trans, the trailer was sitting lower than I expected loaded so I took it to a commercial scale and it weighed right at 8300 Lb. total weight disconnected from my old motor home That trailer weighed right at 4300 Lbs. empty brand new, those tires had a weight rating of under 1800 Lb. each is what I remember now, not good Those where 5 lug wheels on 3500 lb. rated torsion axles that had 2x10 inch brakes on them ,the tire store would not sell me E rated tires and installed them on those five lug wheels NO GOOD The trailer salesman had lied to me about the empty weight of that trailer and he swore Pace would not install 5200 Lb. axles, wheels and tires on a 7000 Lb. GVW trailer, HE LIED I can't tell you how many 15 inch trailer rated tires I've had blow out or have the tread sling off going down the road with no warnings over the last 20 yrs Rant Off
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 02/11/20 02:30 PM.
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Re: Enclosed trailer advice?
[Re: Darren11]
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12/23/20 10:49 AM
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Hi, if you are still a look out for a winch for an enclosed trailer. I suggest you to read readthis article so you can choose which one is the best for your needs. IMO buying a winch is like buying a trailer. Buy the biggest and best you can afford. Yes small ATV winches will work but IMO if you can afford a larger one buy it.
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Re: Enclosed trailer advice?
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01/23/21 10:22 AM
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I have had dozens of enclosed trailers over the last 40 years, currently have two 24' with one of them having a 2' V-nose that I like the best. My 32' LQ trailer has a 20' garage and I have had my 69 D200 long box truck in it, but it does have the escape door making it easier to get in and out of that small space. Going from 20' to 24' is usually around $400 more and makes a world of difference. For someone buying their first trailer go ahead and get everything you eventually may need, don't waste your money on "keeping the cost down" as if you decide to sell it eventually the 24' will hold most of it's value and be easy to sell while the 20' will sit around for a long time waiting for that perfect buyer. Buy only trailers with torsion axle suspension, they are lower and last MUCH longer than leaf spring trailers, DAMHIK!
Last edited by Rhinodart; 01/23/21 10:25 AM.
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