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reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers #2740344
02/06/20 01:39 PM
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tire air pressure sensors
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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: theraif] #2740351
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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I'm good with them, what's your reason for the dislike?

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: A12] #2740353
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Yeah I miss kneeling in the slush in the middle of the winter and dropping the little valve stem cap under the car.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: wingman] #2740358
02/06/20 02:04 PM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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Some are too sensitive (light comes on and beeps when one tire is 1 lb. off), some aren't sensitive enough, and then a lot of them simply fail. I have a strong dislike for them.


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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2740363
02/06/20 02:15 PM
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Southern Maryland
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I agree. They are constantly going off on my wife's car and naturally, it is old enough now the batteries are dying in them.


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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: klunick] #2740367
02/06/20 02:18 PM
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Rio Linda, CA
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Battery life is the major complaint. On my LX daily driver I have an app that deactivates the TPMS.


I'm supposed to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder for me to find one now.
Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: John_Kunkel] #2740377
02/06/20 02:29 PM
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try being a tire installer, got to treat the tires like they super fragile, if you break them they are expensive and no matter what scanner I buy it seems like they can't program most of them, some people have summer and winter wheels so you got to program it ever 6 months to different sensors or swap the sensors defeating the purpose of having two sets of wheels, the batteries die, you get a forever idiot light on when your computer decides it can't make contact with a sensor, we can't stock enough different ones to cover most cars like we could valve stems, just one big giant huge pain in the butt. If you can afford to keep your car under 2 or 3 years old they are fine but 5-10 years down the road they are nothing butt trouble. I don't understand how people have gotten so lazy they can't even check the air in their tire once in a while butt they can check facebook 5000 times to see if someone likes their political meme they re-posted.


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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: HotRodDave] #2740383
02/06/20 02:40 PM
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Just traded in an 08 Sebring in late December with 225K miles. Never had an issue with the TPMS. Never had a battery fail. I just bought two used aluminum wheels for my 16 Dart so I could mount snow tires on them. Both came from a salvage yard with the TPMS sensors still on them. After swapping them out I didn't get any light on the dash. They seem to be working fine. Both of those cars have the base system though. The dash light comes on if there is a low tire...nothing tells you WHAT tire is low.

The system on my 14 Ram is a little annoying at times I guess. Once the warning appears on the info screen, it doesn't go off until the tires are filled up to their recommended pressure. If you're a pound low, the warning will still stay on.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: theraif] #2740469
02/06/20 06:45 PM
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What bothers me much more than the tire sensors are the e-mails I get from the FCA stealership telling me the psi of each tire on my 2019 Charger. Big Brother is not my friend.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: Tom_440] #2740470
02/06/20 06:53 PM
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I bought a 2012 Jeep Wrangler last year. First car I’ve ever had with TPMS. Second day I have it the dash warning lights up. I check tires and they seem OK, but it topped each one a bit. Waited a day or two and it’s still lit.
Google it.

Well damn! Ya also gotta check the SPARE (makes sense right?). It was a bit low. That was it.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: theraif] #2740478
02/06/20 07:06 PM
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This thread reveals the biggest issue with the TPMS systems; They all work different. There are some systems that seem to be pretty well bulletproof, while others are a real PITA. Overall, my opinion is that they are not worth the expense and trouble for the second and subsequent owners of a vehicle. Thank Goodness there is no downside to putting a piece of tape over the light when it is on in the dash.


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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2740479
02/06/20 07:10 PM
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They've saved my tail on slow leaks several times and brought them to my attention before I got into a pickle. They aren't my favorite, but I'm not opposed to them.


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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2740480
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More crap to fail, turn warning lights and beepers on, cost money and bother me. I don't want to be bothered by my car. I don't want it sending messages to other people about what I may or may not be doing.

I don't need it to brake for me, stay in my lane for me, turn my wipers on or give me directions to where I'm going. I don't want my car to do anything other than what I tell it to do. And I don't want to need to have $10,000 worth of equipment to change tires or change oil.

I've been successfully driving and taking care of cars for nearly 50 years without my car helping me. I've been in the business and seen the headaches this crap can cause when it stops working as advertised.

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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: CMcAllister] #2740481
02/06/20 07:15 PM
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Both my Jeep and my wife's Jeep have the TP warning and I like it. Saves having to worry about her tires running low. Neither vehicle has ever given a false warning.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: stumpy] #2740487
02/06/20 07:25 PM
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My take on them (if someone disagrees let me know please) is that it’s a good idea to change them at tire change time unless they are still pretty darn new. Mine are now 8 years old and I will be buying new tires in about a year.
I would hate for them to start failing after putting new tires on and have to pay for mount and balance on top of new valves.
Correct?

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2740499
02/06/20 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
My take on them (if someone disagrees let me know please) is that it’s a good idea to change them at tire change time unless they are still pretty darn new. Mine are now 8 years old and I will be buying new tires in about a year.
I would hate for them to start failing after putting new tires on and have to pay for mount and balance on top of new valves.
Correct?

You can just break the bead and change them unless it's a Ferd that is banded inside the rim. Freekin Ferds...


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Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: CMcAllister] #2740500
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
More crap to fail, turn warning lights and beepers on, cost money and bother me. I don't want to be bothered by my car. I don't want it sending messages to other people about what I may or may not be doing.

I don't need it to brake for me, stay in my lane for me, turn my wipers on or give me directions to where I'm going. I don't want my car to do anything other than what I tell it to do. And I don't want to need to have $10,000 worth of equipment to change tires or change oil.

I've been successfully driving and taking care of cars for nearly 50 years without my car helping me. I've been in the business and seen the headaches this crap can cause when it stops working as advertised.

Maybe you can but apparently the majority of vehicle ignorant people can't. Thus the Ferd Exploder debacle, anybody see a pattern here besides me? Heck I see a bunch of cars where people don't even know they need to check the oil let alone change it once awhile. But what the hey, they keep me making a good paycheck.


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The Scamp is sold, now just two old trucks and one new one.
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NP435, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. NV4500 coming soon.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: Guitar Jones] #2740502
02/06/20 07:58 PM
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The Center of Ohio
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My wife had an Impala SS and when the tires were low it would email / text me! I'd ask her "is the low tire warning on in your car?" And she'd be all WTH? When were you in it? I finally showed her my phone and the message from the SS. I think it was an '08. Maybe 09 model.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: Guitar Jones] #2740504
02/06/20 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
My take on them (if someone disagrees let me know please) is that it’s a good idea to change them at tire change time unless they are still pretty darn new. Mine are now 8 years old and I will be buying new tires in about a year.
I would hate for them to start failing after putting new tires on and have to pay for mount and balance on top of new valves.
Correct?

You can just break the bead and change them unless it's a Ferd that is banded inside the rim. Freekin Ferds...


Thank you...I did not know that.

Re: reason 2581 to dislike newer daily drivers [Re: stumpy] #2740508
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Originally Posted by stumpy
Both my Jeep and my wife's Jeep have the TP warning and I like it. Saves having to worry about her tires running low. Neither vehicle has ever given a false warning.


This^^ Not a huge fan but at least I know a light will tell her the tires need attention. Her car has 30 series lo pro tires on it so it's really hard to tell when a tire is low by looks.Her car is 6yrs old and my truck is 7 yrs old......not a single issue with TPMS on either.....both have caught low tires that may have gone unnoticed.(I work on cars everyday so mine are the LAST to get any attention!)

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