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Re: Calif title ?? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #2734449
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Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk
I don't know if the seven year thing is still the fact or not. Certain cars were scrapped in a way that they could never be registered in California again. Those cars never seem to leave the computer system. I'm not sure how that worked. I know a certain Daytona Iroc R/T that was saved, but cannot be registered...


Jim,

I'm going to guess that those cars are part of a Cash for Clunkers Bill or some other source of BS. I'm going to guess again that DMV moved those cars to a status like "Non-Operation" which lasts forever in the system.

Morty

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Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk
I don't know if the seven year thing is still the fact or not. Certain cars were scrapped in a way that they could never be registered in California again. Those cars never seem to leave the computer system. I'm not sure how that worked. I know a certain Daytona Iroc R/T that was saved, but cannot be registered...


Jim,

I'm going to guess that those cars are part of a Cash for Clunkers Bill or some other source of BS. I'm going to guess again that DMV moved those cars to a status like "Non-Operation" which lasts forever in the system.

Morty


The Daytona in question was prior to the CFC program (2009). It's been in the hands of the same guy for around 15 years. He did run it at a track event in 2009 and had had it for a while at that time. He's got a couple of TIII cars. When he pulled it out of the yard they misread the VIN and said it could be registered...

Re: Calif title ?? [Re: John Brown] #2734494
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Originally Posted by John Brown
Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk


I don't know if the seven year thing is still the fact or not. Certain cars were scrapped in a way that they could never be registered in California again. Those cars never seem to leave the computer system. I'm not sure how that worked. I know a certain Daytona Iroc R/T that was saved, but cannot be registered...



Might not be able to be registered in California, but I'd bet it wouldn't be much of a problem if it went out of state. If it ever went back, I could see a problem cropping up at that time though.


Very likely.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk
Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk
I don't know if the seven year thing is still the fact or not. Certain cars were scrapped in a way that they could never be registered in California again. Those cars never seem to leave the computer system. I'm not sure how that worked. I know a certain Daytona Iroc R/T that was saved, but cannot be registered...


Jim,

I'm going to guess that those cars are part of a Cash for Clunkers Bill or some other source of BS. I'm going to guess again that DMV moved those cars to a status like "Non-Operation" which lasts forever in the system.

Morty


The Daytona in question was prior to the CFC program (2009). It's been in the hands of the same guy for around 15 years. He did run it at a track event in 2009 and had had it for a while at that time. He's got a couple of TIII cars. When he pulled it out of the yard they misread the VIN and said it could be registered...


If it came out of a yard then it was scraped but you should still be able to get a salvaged title unless it entered the yard under special circumstances. Very odd.

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There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


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Originally Posted by BloFish
There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


Is that the status they place on a vehicle that is seized for having stolen parts on it?

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Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by BloFish
There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


Is that the status they place on a vehicle that is seized for having stolen parts on it?



I know that Texas and Washington state brand titles "For Destruction Only". Up until just lately there were ways around that if you had junk yard connections. Since 2019 that option has gone away too. I am an ex-used car dealer, and still in touch with some others, so I hear some of the good and bad things that are currently happening.


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My two were simple old crusty mopars that got saved from the crusher and I think the titles were the open ones signed when the cars were brought to the yard. But it was overstressed to me the cars were dead in cali.

I dont know currently what they do on cars with bad parts but in the 90-s I bought a older 5.0 car and it had a newer fuel injected 5.0 I took to the dealership to sort some things out on and they informed me the motor/trans was hot but when we called the state boys, they came out and said since it was in a running car they would do nothing, if it were on a shop floor they would of took it, I never understood that whole deal.


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Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by BloFish
There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


Is that the status they place on a vehicle that is seized for having stolen parts on it?



No, it occurs when the vehicle has been involved in an accident, and the insurance company determines that is unrepairable and totals it. At that point is is titled as unsalvagable and is not to be removed from the salvage yard or sold as a complete car. Parts can be sold, but the frame must be destroyed along with the vin.


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Originally Posted by BloFish
Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by BloFish
There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


Is that the status they place on a vehicle that is seized for having stolen parts on it?



No, it occurs when the vehicle has been involved in an accident, and the insurance company determines that is unrepairable and totals it. At that point is is titled as unsalvagable and is not to be removed from the salvage yard or sold as a complete car. Parts can be sold, but the frame must be destroyed along with the vin.


That was not the case with this particular Daytona. I think it needed a fender, but that was it. No frame damage at all. It came out of a self serve yard here in the valley.

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Originally Posted by BloFish
Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by BloFish
There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


Is that the status they place on a vehicle that is seized for having stolen parts on it?



No, it occurs when the vehicle has been involved in an accident, and the insurance company determines that is unrepairable and totals it. At that point is is titled as unsalvagable and is not to be removed from the salvage yard or sold as a complete car. Parts can be sold, but the frame must be destroyed along with the vin.


Then what is the determining factor between salvage and unsalvageable?

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Salvaged can be sold and registered.


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Re: Calif title ?? [Re: Morty426] #2735246
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Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by BloFish
Originally Posted by Morty426
Originally Posted by BloFish
There is such a title as “unsalvagable” it is not reversible under any circumstances.


Is that the status they place on a vehicle that is seized for having stolen parts on it?



No, it occurs when the vehicle has been involved in an accident, and the insurance company determines that is unrepairable and totals it. At that point is is titled as unsalvagable and is not to be removed from the salvage yard or sold as a complete car. Parts can be sold, but the frame must be destroyed along with the vin.


Then what is the determining factor between salvage and unsalvageable?



Some of the time whoever makes that call must have no idea what's repairable and what isn't. I've seen Corvettes burned to the ground with salvage titles (salvage titles are for vehicles that can be rebuilt and titled as rebuilt) and have seen Ford trucks that went offroad and through a fence with scratches all over, but were still driveable with no broken glass or airbags deployed, that had destruction only titles (not allowed to be repaired or retitled). Maybe they have a wheel in the office that they use to determine which one gets what treatment. I've also seen cars that were in so called flood areas where the water was only up to the bottom of the hub caps, with NO water in the interior or wiring, where titles have been stamped as salvage. H*ll, there shouldn't even have been any insurance claim on them. I don't know how some of these insurance companies doing this stay in business.

Don't even want to get into where insurance adjusters are buying the same cars that they have been involved with, but in my book, it's next to criminal what they are doing.


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