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Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: CMcAllister] #2735039
01/20/20 07:30 PM
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My back half 1965 Dart that is certified to 7.50 ET has a tag on it that Forest installed after he finish the car, 1970 Cuda all tube chassis car I had him upgrade to meet 7.50 SFI specs doesn't, but it is at least 10 yrs old or older and was SFI certified to 6.00 before SFI change the rules on the funny car cages needed now for faster than 8.50.


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Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: 440Jim] #2735110
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Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: CMcAllister] #2735255
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Is this an NHRA rule or IHRA rule because it’s news to me but my last NHRA cert was before 2010. My last IHRA cert was 2 years ago.


its an NHRA rule , and if it matters my car is 25.5


Per my copy of SFI Spec 25.x "The manufacturer must label each chassis with the manufacturers name & serial number, as well as the date of manufacture"..."Such identification shall be on the driver side Primary Door Diagonal"

I see no such wording for a sportsman cert - 8.50 and/or 180MPH and slower.

Looks to me like they want a tag - name, date, serial #, even if it was home built - for an SFI tag.


Makes sense now, my car is only a 8.50 cert.


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Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: CMcAllister] #2735276
01/21/20 01:41 PM
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I am just trying to make a conclusion from what is posted here, not sure.
It seems the chassis tag is an SFI requirement, not an NHRA requirement. But since NHRA requires an SFI chassis for faster than 8.50; it is required for those certs.

I am looking for local info on chassis inspector in NC. I have one lead (name) and a big racer is checking his contacts for me.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: 440Jim] #2735287
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Originally Posted by 440Jim
I am just trying to make a conclusion from what is posted here, not sure.
It seems the chassis tag is an SFI requirement, not an NHRA requirement. But since NHRA requires an SFI chassis for faster than 8.50; it is required for those certs.

I am looking for local info on chassis inspector in NC. I have one lead (name) and a big racer is checking his contacts for me.


True, the ID/serial tag is part of the SFI spec.

9.99 - 8.50 is an NHRA sportsman certification which needs to meet the specifications in the NHRA rule book, period. To go 8.49 or quicker requires a certification that meets the SFI spec for your particular situation (ET, weight, car construction, etc). Apples and oranges, depending on ET.

IF you decide to get the car done, go to the source. Inspectors work for NHRA. Call your Division office and/or head tech man, ask them schedules, locations, contacts, etc. They are who you need to deal with. Call your local track or check their schedule. Often, an NHRA track will schedule an inspector to come in for a day or 2 and do certs for local cars. Usually you need to make an appointment to take advantage of that.

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Update: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: CMcAllister] #2746439
02/25/20 02:22 PM
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Update.

I talked to the NHRA chassis inspector in NC. He told me $170 plus $35 for him to come to my shop/garage.
Today, the IHRA Division Director answered my email. There is an IHRA Sportsman Spectacular at Farmington, NC March 21-22.
He said there will be a chassis inspector there, and the cost is $100.

I plan to run the IHRA Summit Super Series points at Farmington this year. I have the IHRA license, and car number. So this looks like the way for me to go.

Sunday was 57 degrees and sunny. I brought my Daytona to Piedmont dragway for testing.
1.419 sixty foot
6.417 at 108.7 mph 1/8 mile
Sunday, Funday ! up

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1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: 1967dartgt] #2746445
02/25/20 02:44 PM
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My car did not have a manufacturers tag, inspector told me to go to a sign shop and have one made:
Year manufactured, I knew what that was.
Who built it. Put “Unknown “ there.
Serial Number, 001.
I have mine certified to 6.0. Jim


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Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: BANDIT] #2746461
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My Daytona has the factory VIN (dash).


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: 440Jim] #2746496
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Nice car! Got to run Piedmont in Nov. for Footbrake Frenzy, all one day they were able to have it.

Funny story about ID tags and certifications. Guy I worked for on his cars throughout high school and part of college bought a Vega that had a current NHRA 8.50 cert. Got the car back to the shop and realized that it was a pile of crap, should never have passed. Had to rebuild almost everything on the chassis just to make sure the car would at least go straight. He decided that he didn't want to deal with getting the car re-certified so he cut the bars out that had the tags and pieced them back in the new cage. No one ever questioned him and when it was time to finally get it re-certified, it passed again. I have no idea where that Vega went to, nor do I really want to know. My old boss is also now in jail, so shruggy

Re: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: tabletop390] #2746630
02/26/20 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tabletop390
Nice car! Got to run Piedmont in Nov. for Footbrake Frenzy, all one day they were able to have it.

Funny story about ID tags and certifications. Guy I worked for on his cars throughout high school and part of college bought a Vega that had a current NHRA 8.50 cert. Got the car back to the shop and realized that it was a pile of crap, should never have passed. Had to rebuild almost everything on the chassis just to make sure the car would at least go straight. He decided that he didn't want to deal with getting the car re-certified so he cut the bars out that had the tags and pieced them back in the new cage. No one ever questioned him and when it was time to finally get it re-certified, it passed again. I have no idea where that Vega went to, nor do I really want to know. My old boss is also now in jail, so shruggy


this is exactly why they want serial number tags on the chassis now, AND they log this info along with the serial number of the tag they put on your bar now


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Re: Update: Recertify my chassis or don't bother? [Re: 440Jim] #2746655
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Good news Jim, sounds like you're all set and ready to go.

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