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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: Jjs72D] #2733802
01/17/20 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jjs72D
Hey now, not everyone with larger diameter wheels on their classic has a man bun. That is just wrong, man!


Did not intend to insult! Just wanted to mention other modern things in addition to large wheels that are unmistakably 2015 and later.


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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: moparmitch] #2733803
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Originally Posted by moparmitch
[quote=dvw]Suspension holding the weight is easy. Once the junk you want to remove is gone. The brakes with the correct bore master cylinder, piece of cake. Weight? No issue. I've seen them below 3200 with stock appearing interior, power windows, ect. Again remove junk you dont need. Air bags extra stereo, A/C, power steering, etc. The windows. Now there's an issue. Making them work without the BCM can be done . But it's not cheap. The earlier models window are a little easier.
Doug


Is the below 3200 with aftermarket front and rear suspension and mounting vs something based off using oem front and rear cradles?

Also including some form of roll cage?

I've looked a bit on the web for info on this haven't seen any particular detailed info for a new challenger with extreme weight reduction, other than the Drag Pak style cars, which I think are more than 3200 (not sure though).

Any recommendations for racers to follow who have done this or other examples on the web?

Thanks! [/quote

Stock eliminator style car. Aftermarket frt strut, 8 3/4 solid axle with Drag Pac 4 link, with aluminum center, 6.1 with 904, chrome moly roll bar, light brakes.
Doug

Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: Jjs72D] #2733821
01/17/20 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jjs72D
Hey now, not everyone with larger diameter wheels on their classic has a man bun. That is just wrong, man!


But funny as heck!

Size-wise a 440 would fit with ease you can run an overdrive transmission because there's plenty of tunnel room . Basic Fab skills would mount the motor, the drive shaft might be a little challenging, but if you went to solid axle that would solve that problem. It would be a cool project.

Except for that man bun wearing liberal EPA emissions testing Nazi makes you take it to have it tested! Even though you'll only drive it maybe a thousand miles or 2000 miles a year.

Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: V10nacuda] #2733848
01/17/20 10:53 AM
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V10nacuda said: "Except for that man bun wearing liberal EPA emissions testing Nazi makes you take it to have it tested! Even though you'll only drive it maybe a thousand miles or 2000 miles a year."

I about spit out then choked on my coffee from laughter with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done sir.


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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: 2boltmain] #2734116
01/18/20 11:20 AM
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a "man bun" will never be in my hair do style......... laugh2
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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: moparx] #2734950
01/20/20 03:34 PM
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The Drag Pak attached has 318 in it built for Super Stock. It is the only combination of its kind that I am aware of. This car was originally built by Doug Duell and was the first "Drag Pak" in competition. He took a street V6 car and converted it to a Drag Pak car because the Drag Pak's from the factory were not available yet. He ran a 5.7 hemi. The Ross family purchased it from Duell. Putting a SBM in a Drag Pak isn't that unusual since the first Drag Pak's that came out in 2009 had a 360 as an engine option. Putting a BBM in late model Challenger would be different. The only time I remember seeing something similar was in one of the Mopar magazines. There was a gentlemen who swapped a Gen 2 426 hemi into a late model Challenger. It looked like a retro race car, but I can't find a picture of it.

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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: Wailin D] #2734995
01/20/20 05:06 PM
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Bondo Bob has a "Color Me Gone" Drag Pack.

He has put a Gen 2 Hemi in it. LOL, he says the valve covers will come off but it looks really tight.

However last time I saw he had the Hemi for sale and I think was going with a small block, R3/W9/W8 or an R5/P7 can't remember for sure.

His user name on Facebook is Bondo Bob and I think anyone can see his home page and photos of the car.

Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: 340Cuda] #2735123
01/21/20 12:17 AM
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There you go. You beat me to it. The name of the car finally came to me a little while ago and was coming on here to post it. Here is a picture of the Challenger and it's engine compartment. Thanks for sharing where it is now.

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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: Wailin D] #2735181
01/21/20 08:42 AM
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Why stop at a 440 why not put in a 572 Blown Hemi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujztm5hV1Bs

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Re: anyone put a 440 in new style Challenger [Re: 340Cuda] #2735643
01/22/20 04:56 PM
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Well I see this post stirred up a lot of interest. I probably will never do it. I will still keep an eye on a little V6 cheap challenger kicking around. Bondo Bob has the answer to it fitting in the post above. Great stuff and in the Color Me gone Trim Love it. There is another post as well. The orange Challenger. Make the power train work is the easy part for me. Its things like not been able to drive it as some electrons crap is not hooked up. Electronics are my down fall in all this.
So thanks for all the great input Guys. About the man bun Heck im 72 and bald as babies bum so that is not a factor
Ron


After almost 71 years I am on my last car. A 65 Plymouth Satellite straight axle altered wheel base car.
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