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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: topside] #2723414
12/12/19 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by topside
Walked by the local drug store's magazine stand yesterday, and looked at some of the titles.
The train (full size & scale modelling), aircraft (several types/genres), guns, fashion, travel, etc seem to be still going strong.
Most of those would seem to have small, niche audiences, most have fewer ads, and no project-car-pipeline/parts-promotion like car magazines do.

Can't help but wonder if there's more to the story.


From the publishers perspective, newsstand sales are mostly a way to sell subscriptions. When I was working in the magazine factory every title did some newsstand but the bulk of the run, 90% or more, was subscription. The other thing I was told is that maybe 1/2 of the newsstand run gets shipped back from the retailer to the distributor and tossed in the recycle bin. When the distributor delivers the current issue, they scoop up the unsold previous issue.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: ] #2724229
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It’s a shame though. I still enjoy the magazines, the online versions just don’t seem to work well in the format plus when on a computer a lot it’s nice to get away from screen time and read a book or magazine. Also hate dealing with the adsthat are heavily associated with online magazines.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: 65pacecar] #2724244
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We can’t say it’s a shame all we want, but here we are posting on the medium that is killing the printed page.

Would we want to go back to no internet and the magazines and bar buddies for our information? I think most answers, if we’re being honest, would be no.

Technology did us a big favor, but there are some concessions we are having to make.

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2724291
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People got along just fine before the internet. Is your life that much better because of it?

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Jjs72D] #2724307
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Originally Posted by Jjs72D
People got along just fine before the internet. Is your life that much better because of it?


The widespread availability of information (on any topic) is FAR batter. The ability to see other cars, and hear about them, and their owners, from all over the world is FAR better. I get along fine with people...you?

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2724357
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I'm not trying to instigate anything. I just think that once the internet became a household thing, the amount of freaks and weirdos grew exponentially.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Jjs72D] #2724360
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Originally Posted by Jjs72D
I'm not trying to instigate anything. I just think that once the internet became a household thing, the amount of freaks and weirdos grew exponentially.


...and here you are.
LOL

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Jjs72D] #2724406
12/16/19 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jjs72D
I'm not trying to instigate anything. I just think that once the internet became a household thing, the amount of freaks and weirdos grew exponentially.


They were always there - it's your access to them (or vice versa) that grew.

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Originally Posted by RWG75
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I'm not trying to instigate anything. I just think that once the internet became a household thing, the amount of freaks and weirdos grew exponentially.


They were always there - it's your access to them (or vice versa) that grew.


That logic also applies to other societal concerns, one I cannot refer to as per forum rules? work

Because I don't, I think we have universally become much more self centered, among other things, and that has a snowball effect.

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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: jcc] #2724435
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Print media is dying
The Internet is the reason

Print media is a one way information channel (letters to the editor notwithstanding)
The Internet is often an open discussion.

Print media shared a very limited amount of info.
The Internet shares volumes.

If magazines are a casualty, so be it. I’m sure if readers are willing to pay $100/year for their mag they can stay in business.
Market forces at work.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: jcc] #2724707
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Internet has given access to great things and bad. Im glad I was around and functioning fine pre internet but I will keep and use it now in my life. In all seriousness the death of many published magazines and newspapers should be a massive massive reduction is tree cutting to make all that paper.


Keep old mopars alive.
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that paper will now be used for more trash advertising junk mail you will get every day.
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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: moparx] #2732865
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I'm not sure about the rest of them, but according to customer service at TEN, "Street Rodder has ceased all publication."
No digital issues online.



Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Stroker] #2732876
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Sorry to see the demise of Street Rodder. A little outside of my genre, but it was the thickest magazine on the rack, and always had good fabrication articles that could be applied to just about any project.

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Received a notice in the mail yesterday that "Automobile" magazine is no more. I recall when David E. Davis started that mag, it always had quality writers. Looks like I get 6 months of free Motor Trend streaming video and a digital subscription to MT, 4x4 or Hot Rod.
Really amazing shift. At one time (ending around 2010) I was a nationally syndicated automotive writer, and at that time, writers whose material appeared exclusively on the internet were specifically excluded from most of the press events I attended..

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: 56_Royal_Lancer] #2732955
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They currently do no know what they are going to do with all these brands. If they will do an online magazine, or just continue to add content to the HotRod.com website.

I'm still doing my Hot Rod Column.... everything else is gone as of right now.

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Originally Posted by BSharp
Sorry to see the demise of Street Rodder. A little outside of my genre, but it was the thickest magazine on the rack, and always had good fabrication articles that could be applied to just about any project.


I agree. They started running post '49 cars when Rod & Custom folded, which was nice.
The new issue mentions a "MIG welder must-haves" article online, I can't find it.
I don't know if it's on the digital sub site, or what the deal is.
It looks like I'll have 3 years added on to my Hot Rod sub with the demise of Mopar Muscle, Car Craft, and Street Rodder.



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