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keith black 383 pistons ? #2730172
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hi

i see there are 3 part no. for the 383 keith black pistions i am looking at for a 383 build .

162

162 R

162 L

looks like 162 has one type of valve relief , and the 162 R & 162 L have another ?


why 2 diff types of same part no? R & L are right and left . why are these made in a right and left ?



also valve relief some places poasted as 5 cc and some say 8 cc ?

anyone ran into this ?

also is there a tech line phone no . i dont see a k b web sight ?


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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2730175
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Go look under United Piston Machine in Reno Nevada. They also make the ICON pistons you might want to look at as well.
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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2730190
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Their catalog is on line.

Be sure to look at their Icon IC687/KTD

Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: BSB67] #2730198
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the pistons are lefts and rights to orientate them with the intake valve. some of the newer KB pistons don't have that. you can send an e-mail to them and they'll help with your questions.

Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2730205
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The ICON’s are very nice for the price. I found a set for my 511 for $500 shipped.

Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: mopar dave] #2730223
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OP, In case you don't already have it: https://uempistons.com/
1-800-648-7970
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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: DrCharles] #2730249
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I’m not really a big fan of how that KB162 piston is configured.

Short compression height with huge valve pockets.

Tougher to get any quench/compression out of it.


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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: fast68plymouth] #2730340
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
I’m not really a big fan of how that KB162 piston is configured.

Short compression height with huge valve pockets.

Tougher to get any quench/compression out of it.


That's why the 687 is so much better.

Even with Diamonds new 383 piston, you'll have to work pretty hard to get to 10:1, like zero deck and 75 cc. Eddy's

Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: BSB67] #2730342
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That Icon number posted looks pretty appealing with the 4.5cc dome volume.


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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: calrobb2000] #2730368
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check over on cnc motorsports, lowest price I could find. I use the IC837 forged piston. Now $524 a set.

Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: mopar dave] #2730542
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some recommendations here but nobody has asked what heads? pump gas? what will the engine be used for?

Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: lewtot184] #2730545
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True....... but this is the Race section...... so I assumed it’s not a motor home or a tractor.

As with any other build....... have a good plan, do the research, and figure out what’s the best direction to take for your build.


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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: fast68plymouth] #2731155
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I like KB 400 it has small dome and I have it in .040 over version had to order and wait for that .
But make easy 10.2 to 1 compression with 84 cc Eddy head and .005 down in the hole deck height. With .039 to .040 1009 gasket.
Comp cam 275 hl
Rpm intake .
Cheap 1.75 headers.
Drives good in my dads 68 charger with 727 and 3.55 gear .


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Re: keith black 383 pistons ? [Re: cjs69mope] #2731193
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This is an example of why it pays to do your homework...... and really be sure of what you’re buying.

The early version of the KB400 had a positive dome volume.
They changed it at some point, and the one listed in the 2016 catalog shows the dome volume as “0”.

I believe the dome got smaller and the valve pockets got bigger.

What that means is...... if you have the “0” dome volume version in your zero deck +.030 over 383 with a 1009 gasket and 84cc heads...... you don’t have a 10:1 motor.

It’s a 9.36:1 motor.

Even swapping out the KB’s for the Icon piston with the 4.5cc dome...... it still only gets you to 9.78:1.
Take the heads down to 82cc’s...... and then you’d be at 9.98:1.


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