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Strong Performance. Run Away!!! #2729854
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I sent my B1 heads out to Dustin Strong, aka Strong Performance of O'Neill, Nebraska, aka LimeRT, 2 years ago. I have payed up front for new valve train components. I have heard every excuse under the sun, why they aren't completed yet. From snow storms, to floods, to broken foot, to belly button infection, to tornado, to wrong parts. Now, he won't even answer his phone calls or texts. And I'm not the only one. More than a dozen people have hit me up on fb with the same situation. Do Not Use His Services Under Any Condition!!! He is a thief, a liar and a coward.

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Well the rat is finally coming out into the light.....I am ready for the road trip to Nebraska. I will buy the gas......The crap like this is what makes this business so dang hard. Stories like these are way to common. If anybody is organizing a posse count me in.
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is that guy around lincoln ?

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Looks like north and west from Lincoln. About straight west of Sioux City.


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i havent seen him on facebook for a while

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: sgcuda] #2729901
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I feel your pain. I've been waiting over 4 years for some parts. Paid up front too.


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With all the good head porters on the East Coast how did you find this guy. I checked him out on Facebook and he looks like a real winner.


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A good friend of mine just asked me about Strong Performance, he wanted to get a short block built. I had spoke with him a while back about some parts but did not buy. Guess I got lucky that time. So who can you go to to order a short block and actually get it?

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What significance may we attach to paying the entire bill up front?
He's using your money to buy the parts for the last customer. Work will not start on your order until he has another customer.


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strong performance has a facebook,looks like he just did some sidewinder heads,should go on there

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Originally Posted by polyspheric
What significance may we attach to paying the entire bill up front?
He's using your money to buy the parts for the last customer. Work will not start on your order until he has another customer.


Bingo. Most of these horror stories seem to have the same themes: paying for parts up front often in full, without a credit card, to a person multiple states away.

If they don't accept credit cards, and want full payment without it being a 1:1 transaction, walk away. It's 2020, both of these indicate you're dealing with an unhealthy company. Thanks for the heads-up none the less.

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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: A39Coronet] #2729988
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In his case he's a f-ing thief period and I do NOT take credit cards and never rip anyone off......some card holders do and have recalled their payments in full and kept my buddy's carbs as well.......Not everyone is a crook....


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Dustin L. Strong , 604 N. 10th St. , O'Neill , Nebraska.
Looks like he is running this out of a shop behind his house. It appears there is no DBA for this business name, might be able to trip him up on that.
Also appears to be a large contingent of Strong's in the area , going to be hostile territory. Paul

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Thanks for the heads up.
That said, i'm with Todd Marsh and Dom ( Thumper):
1. Go get your heads, see if Cops will follow you or meet you there.

2. No, not everyone takes credit cards and more and more businesses are ceasing to do so.
Paypal is cool, safe and isn't a financial loser either.
There are several reputable companies that post and/or advertise here that either wont use credit cards or, have to charge extra if using one.
Big box stores can afford it easily , for smaller businesses, it can be a pain and an expense they cannot justify.

3. Lots of crooks out there, im sad anyone gets hurt by them and there are honest businesses that need the work.

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: RustyM] #2730004
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FYI you can easily use Paypal and use a credit card as a funding source and still contest the charges and they WILL get reversed on the merchant. SO don't think Paypal is "safer" than just a card. We pay for EVERYTHING on credit cards, had to many instances of stolen info using a debit card, plus we get a fair amount of cash back using our "system". Just makes economic sense for us as we usually get back thousands of dollars a year this way. Having said that if I am dealing with a reputable dealer I have no issues writing a check or getting a money order, but anyone else whom I do not know it is going to be a CC or I will go elsewhere, unfortunately these days those protections are needed, as in this case.


Sorry to hear about your issues. Hopefully you can get some sort of resolution. IMO anytime you have to pay up front it is a crap shoot at best. Doing it through the mail and not in person makes it even more so. Just look at the Shadydell posts.....


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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: RustyM] #2730013
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if Cops will follow you or meet you there
The moment you reveal how he got the heads and the money (you gave them to him) it's NOT a theft, fraud, or robbery.
Let me anticipate the police response: "We don't provide bodyguard service, and you have no proof that any crime has been committed. It's a civil matter, we can't help you, you need a lawyer".

The most important thing to do now is to establish what happened (e-mails, not phone calls).

PayPal? Reversing the payment expires long before you know what he did.


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Originally Posted by polyspheric
if Cops will follow you or meet you there
The moment you reveal how he got the heads and the money (you gave them to him) it's NOT a theft, fraud, or robbery.
Let me anticipate the police response: "We don't provide bodyguard service, and you have no proof that any crime has been committed. It's a civil matter, we can't help you, you need a lawyer".

The most important thing to do now is to establish what happened (e-mails, not phone calls).

PayPal? Reversing the payment expires long before you know what he did.


It's called "theft by deception" and I've had to get the police involved in a situation of mine in the past. They took care of it with a phone call after I spent months fighting with the clown. You need documentation, dates, specifics and proof of conversations and promises, not just "he said, she said". I was lucky, many law enforcement agencies won't get involved without a person being flat out caught red handed, as I've also found out. I would talk to the local LE out there. Don't be surprised if they aren't interested in your problem. Attorney General consumer affairs is another option.

Most of these chassis shops, engine shops, parts places, etc. are not large corporations. They are not going to finance your project for you, and they have to protect themselves from the a-holes who want an engine or car built but only have $10 in their pocket. Who is able to have thousands of dollars tied up in a building full of custom stuff that some clown couldn't pay for. That's not have it's done these days. If you want something done on a COD basis and it's custom or more than a few hundred dollars, good luck. Too many flakes out there. I won't do it and I don't expect it to be done for me.

Do your research and pay attention. Get receipts. Use email and don't delete them. And if something sounds hinky, it probably is. If you're the kind of person who regularly gets fooled by Nigerian princes, you should probably get someone to help you with this stuff.


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Check with your credit card, also. By the time I went round and round with CRT, Chase credit card told me they will only do something if it is within 2 billing cycles of the original charge. They said I had a legitimate claim, tho. Thanks a lot, MF’s, and to the shredder went that card. Jim


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Originally Posted by polyspheric
What significance may we attach to paying the entire bill up front?
He's using your money to buy the parts for the last customer. Work will not start on your order until he has another customer.


A serial Ponzi MO.

Problem is, the music eventually, always stops.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Ken...Do you have all receipts and a record of parts sent to this guy? As mentioned, the cops will probably call it a civil matter.


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He appears to be in Holt County.

Several options.

Contact the County Prosecutor or Sheriif and see if they will get involved. Sometimes when a badge shows up at your doorstep to “investigate” that can sometimes shake things loose.

Contact your local USPO Postal Insoector and see if he can get involved. If you used the USPS to send anything to him they likely will get involved.

If you used a credit card that involves fraud by wire, contact your local FBI office and see if they will get involved.

And - don’t forget the FTC. Go to their website for more info.

If you get someone to listen to you make sure you mention all the bad news on FB. They can obviously find that info too and that may help convince them this guy needs a visit from authorities.

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Originally Posted by Transman
He appears to be in Holt County.

Several options.

Contact the County Prosecutor or Sheriif and see if they will get involved. Sometimes when a badge shows up at your doorstep to “investigate” that can sometimes shake things loose.

Contact your local USPO Postal Insoector and see if he can get involved. If you used the USPS to send anything to him they likely will get involved.

If you used a credit card that involves fraud by wire, contact your local FBI office and see if they will get involved.


Wire fraud and mail fraud are federal felonies, correct? Either one should have enough jail time attached to get his attention.

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Originally Posted by iapco103
Also appears to be a large contingent of Strong's in the area , going to be hostile territory.


Yep it would be a bummer to call the police and have the guy answer the phone "Officer Strong"...

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That is terrible news. This happens way too much!



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We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?


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Originally Posted by polyspheric
We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?


I did. Guy took down payment money for a car that didn't exist. Used the name of an acquaintance as a reference. I was dumb, lucky to get my cash back. Wouldn't have except for friends who had friends in the right places.

Seems to me these things did happen in this case. Who knows what was in his heart 2 years ago. People should not be allowed to do this crap with impunity. Failing that, people should be able to take matters into their own hands. Tired of seeing crooks have all of the protections under the law.

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has anyone went on his strong performance facebook and tried to stir something up,when people see what hes done ,he might do something

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Originally Posted by polyspheric
We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?


So, you can take and keep someone's money, promise a service or a product, not deliver and not break any laws? Why do you always stick up for crooks?

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Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by polyspheric
We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?


So, you can take and keep someone's money, promise a service or a product, not deliver and not break any laws? Why do you always stick up for crooks?


That is the way it works, it has nothing to do with sticking up for anyone.

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Seems to me these things did happen in this case

Definitely! That's how it gets presented to the prosecutor.


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Originally Posted by polyspheric
We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?


-Very good points Poly. One way to help (but still not guarantee an easy task) in situations like this is to get a detailed quote for goods and services signed by both parties prior to any custom work started and to mutually sign a contract based on that quote. It can be a PITA, but any considerable amount being spent for work like this from strangers almost warrants this. I buy stuff online too with a CC sometimes...because it's convenient.
It is far easier to pursue contractor fraud in Court with a mutually signed contract not being followed than it is relying on word of mouth, thoughts, "understandings"etc. Emails are helpful sometimes if the communication was clear enough.
The whole idea is to strip away the defendant's ability to disprove negative intent. Sad it has to be like this, but that's the world we live in. In the area where I work at least, with documentation like this charges are filed regularly.

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A contract... makes it easier to sue him, not to arrest him.

I'd repeat myself based on a few hundred Court of Appeals cases, but....


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Originally Posted by polyspheric
A contract... makes it easier to sue him, not to arrest him.

I'd repeat myself based on a few hundred Court of Appeals cases, but....


What if he has enough evidence to file a small claims court case? I have delivered several civil case papers and if the evidence is there,the judge always will side with the plaintiff. wave


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Originally Posted by polyspheric
A contract... makes it easier to sue him, not to arrest him.

I'd repeat myself based on a few hundred Court of Appeals cases, but....


An arrest means having evidence of a crime and having law enforcement involved. Easier said than done. I know from experience, often LE doesn't put much effort into dealing with property crimes; burglary, theft, embezzlement, unless the victim is someone who matters or the dollar amount is substantial. I guess they figure it's just not worth the effort when the judge is probably just going to slap a wrist and turn 'em loose.

The cards are stacked against the victim these days. Take matters into your own hands and go do the cop's job, then they tend to get excited.

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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: polyspheric] #2730396
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Originally Posted by polyspheric
We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?

Yes, I have proof.
1) I found out that this has become a 3 year pattern, with dozens of customers, some right in his own town.
2) The flood that he said hit the shop neighborhood never happened. The tornado that took down half the building never happened.
3) Have plenty of names that paid upfront for machine work, engines, parts
4) Plenty of pages of texts that show no response for months at a time

Doesn't matter. Several locals decided to visit with Dustin today and have a play date. Yes, he's still alive and unharmed. I don't know why, though.

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And FYI,

Maybe my investment totals only around the $5,000 mark, but if you add the people that I know of who lost money, parts, and services through Dustin, it is well in excess of $100,000 at this time. Again, this is just the people that I know of.

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: Twostick] #2730408
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Originally Posted by Twostick
Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by polyspheric
We keep coming back to this. Not keeping your word is not fraud, deceit, or a crime of any kind despite what the police suggest.
Let me explain "theft by deception":
That's where you provide proof that the person you contracted already knew in advance:
1. he is going to steal your parts
2. he knew what he told you to be false, intended to overcome any hesitation on your part, and without which you would not have given him the work
3. and keep the money
4. and reject any communication

Do you have this proof?


So, you can take and keep someone's money, promise a service or a product, not deliver and not break any laws? Why do you always stick up for crooks?


That is the way it works, it has nothing to do with sticking up for anyone.

Kevin


However, if there is a proven repeating pattern of financial misdeeds, it can prove willful intent, Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby faced these obstacles in court, and one is in jail and the other will likely join him.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: jcc] #2730533
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It upsets me to no end when things like this happen with places that have a good rep and many satisfied customers. Most of us have been caught in chassis,bodyshop or machine shop prison with some turning out ok and some NOT mad
With being said it's to a point that we must demand a performance contract to go with the original needed contract with a downpayment to cover parts and a receipt for parts sent for the work being contracted. If they are not willing to document EVERYTHING than you might want to go elsewhere. As we saw with Ryan bankruptcy can squash the bast of contracts. Good luck to all involved up


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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: hemi-itis] #2730571
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Not terrible far from me . .about 100 miles or s, he is a dipstick ..

I tried to warn everyone but, no one wanted to listen ..

He has many people after him for money , he does have lots of relatives .. I have not seen him back at track for couple years .. but, might be going somewhere else

Friend waited couple years for parts and did get them ..oddly enough


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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: bigdad] #2730579
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a friend got taken by him, tried court , told it was a waste of time

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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: coronetville] #2730581
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This guy must have the best advertising campaign in the world.

The situation is a little reminiscent of Mr. “Headbytes” from YouTube.

There were plenty of stories....... but people would send him stuff anyway.


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Reminiscent of the Bryce/Airwolf saga.....

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: J_BODY] #2730665
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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: bigdad] #2730672
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I guess that I am one of the lucky ones. I bought some parts from him in 2015, sale went fine, I got what was advertised in a timely manner. A couple of years later I sold him some parts and didn't get paid right away. I finally got him on the phone about six weeks later and he sent my money by paypal within 2 hours. I haven't had any dealings with him since.

Brian

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: coronetville] #2730681
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Court?
1. you have to serve him, he doesn't want to be served, he will claim he wasn't served, his wife will testify that he was in Iraq that day
2. he will serve you back with a motion to dismiss, based on nonsense, but you still have to answer it
3. he may have the whole thing owned by a corporation, in which all stock is owned by his dog
4. he will produce a contract selling the company to his cousin (wife, neighbor) that appears to pre-date your problem - "I don't own it any more"
5. he files for bankruptcy, and almost all of the claims against him are friends of his (to dilute your share)
6. if you get a judgment against him, the Court does not collect the money (!!!)
7. you still have to locate and identify his assets, pay the Sheriff to seize them and auction them off
8. some banks have no idea what a judgment is, and will not turn over his money until their lawyer says yes (yes, that's illegal)
9. you may get your attorney's fees back, but don't count on it

How would I know these things?
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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: polyspheric] #2730762
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One more item not mentioned, all the above assumes the guy has a smidgen of wealth some where worth chasing in court, and that might be a rather big assumption.

And my lawyer always told me, he will defend me until my last dollar.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: jcc] #2739868
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Spoke to another friend last weekend .. for reasons I don't understand because he knows better .. DUSTIN STRONG OF STRONG PERFORMANCE , got him for well over $10,000 .. I wonder just how much he has stole from people and still doing it


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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: bigdad] #2740030
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Originally Posted by bigdad
Spoke to another friend last weekend .. for reasons I don't understand because he knows better .. DUSTIN STRONG OF STRONG PERFORMANCE , got him for well over $10,000 .. I wonder just how much he has stole from people and still doing it


I went on a mission with a guy who tricked me out of $500 years ago. Got it back. hammer $10K is just about enough to make me go rogue. I really hope I manage to avoid getting involved in a situation like this.


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Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: polyspheric] #2740969
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I think this is where Uncle Louie could come in handy and just break some legs.

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: 469runner] #2760964
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Just curious since I ran into this post. Any new updates? I am too still waiting, talked to him in the middle of January, and it sounded promising. Now it's back to phone goes straight to no voice setup.

Re: Strong Performance. Run Away!!! [Re: Z_Z] #2761533
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I understand most whatever equipment he owned or .. ? is up for sale , another two friends ventured over and got his parts and almost all of his money .. took 3 hours , he had to make some calls ..

but, has many, many upset people that he owes money to.


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