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Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: calmopar] #2729411
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Originally Posted by calmopar
Solar energy (PV/wind/etc) "charging" a flywheel-driven car is the way to go.


I'll reply to my own post

https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2014/jan/27/flywheel-hybrid-flybrid


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Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: calmopar] #2729442
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Originally Posted by calmopar
Originally Posted by calmopar
Solar energy (PV/wind/etc) "charging" a flywheel-driven car is the way to go.


I'll reply to my own post

https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2014/jan/27/flywheel-hybrid-flybrid


That’s regenerative braking, nothing that isn’t already being used on many platforms.

Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2729444
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Yes, and when flywheel capacity/weight improves, we can expect to see phev consumer autos. That will at least solve the battery problems.


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Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: 360view] #2729448
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See this is why EV vehicles aren't widely accepted, they don't look like conventional vehicles. They look goofy.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


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Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2729618
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted by jcc
So how accurate is that an EV battery's lifev is really just dependent on rate of charge, depth of charge, temp?, rate of discharge, and charge cycles? Seems like an on board real time display of calculated used lifetime battery life would be rather useful, since so many here are mentioning miles on an EV, which means relatively little it seems..


All those are factors that affect life. Same with your cordless power tools and laptops etc.

Age and temp are big factors.

Seems like an algorithm wouldn’t be that hard to incorporate many of the variables and display some sort of ‘remaining life’ metric, but automakers might be slow to embrace that idea. A calculation of total charging and discharging watts would cool.


We handle diesel portable generators. The most common metric for servicing is run time hours. Those who are more diligent mainly use amount fuel consumed as their servicing guideline, that is where I my EV algorithm suggestion came from.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: 340Cuda] #2729694
01/03/20 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
There is a company in California that has many 300,000 mile Teslas. If I remember correctly most have the original batteries. If I find a link to the article I will post it.


https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-electric-cars-surpass-300000-miles-in-shuttle-service/

Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: 340Cuda] #2729697
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These people just want to feel good about what they think they are doing to supposedly save the environment! They cut down acres of oxygen producing trees to put up solar panels, hardly a win for the environment! In our stae they are putting up electric car charging stations that are powered by diesel generators!


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Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Guitar Jones] #2729875
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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones

See this is why EV vehicles aren't widely accepted, they don't look like conventional vehicles. They look goofy.


Actually, one of the reasons why adopters are interested in them is because they don't look like conventional vehicles. twocents

Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #2729886
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Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by Guitar Jones

See this is why EV vehicles aren't widely accepted, they don't look like conventional vehicles. They look goofy.


Actually, one of the reasons why adopters are interested in them is because they don't look like conventional vehicles. twocents

Like I said, not widely accepted. Most people don't want to drive a clown car.


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Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Guitar Jones] #2729938
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Several years ago, I read that STYLING was a popular reason that people were buying the silly looking Toyota Prius. The traditional Corolla was available as a hybrid with similar mileage and size but people wanted the Prius by a wide margin. Could it be that they wanted to appear to care about the environment more than they actually did? A reversal of status where they preferred to be miserly or sensitive to the ecological impact of automobiles?

Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Guitar Jones] #2729993
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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by Guitar Jones

See this is why EV vehicles aren't widely accepted, they don't look like conventional vehicles. They look goofy.


Actually, one of the reasons why adopters are interested in them is because they don't look like conventional vehicles. twocents

Like I said, not widely accepted. Most people don't want to drive a clown car.


You don't seem to understand.

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/total-toyota-prius-sales-figures/

While I'm taking liberties with the Prius, considering it a EV vehicle, production figures don't suggest unconventional styling is an issue of acceptance. In fact, it's prob de rigueur.

And if you look at its competitors, they are different from their gas-powered brothers.

Re: Mazda clarifies its EV creates diesel-like emissions [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #2730080
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I understand perfectly. Tell me just how many clown cars are sold compared to conventional cars? Sure there are other variables involved, like unknowns about service life, operating costs and range but you only get the fringe market with the weird looking cars. When you have spent better than 4 decades in new car dealerships talking with customers and seeing what does sell, I'll consider your opinions.
The pure EV is a different animal then a hybrid and a slightly different market. I would point to the Honda Insight as a prime example of what I'm saying. How many of them do you see on the road and then look at the more conventional looking Tesla. I see a lot of them.


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