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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: 6PakBee] #2728070
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A dog? I would classify this one in the Greyhound dept....

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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Barnstorm] #2728632
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Originally Posted by Barnstorm
Doesn't Jim Hale have one that runs low elevens in 64 Plymouth stocker?
Jim Hale's car is a station wagon and is a 383. It is fast and it is for sale if you would like one.

Here is a video NHRA did on Jim and the car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMR1mKQ-stY

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: 340Cuda] #2728688
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Jim Hale has had many different very fast Mopar drag cars including a original A990 1965 Dodge or Plymouth (CRS now blushrealcrazy) SS/CA that he raced at the Winternationals in either 1974 or 1975. He was pitted across the way where I was spitted at that race, he was good guy and easy to talk to up


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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Cab_Burge] #2728701
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I remember a mag tested a 64 Ply with the 426-S 365 hp eng. It ran 15.2 but it was 3.23 gear and had a passenger in the car with test equipment. I would say with a 3.91 gear and a bit less weight it was an easy 14 second car. Maybe mid 14's at best. Not a barn burner but not a total dog either. Ron

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Lmopar69] #2728710
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Great looking car!

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: pushbutton] #2728743
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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2728784
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Originally Posted by ScottSmith_Harms
I owned and restored this one in the early 90's, factory pilot car 426S 4 speed car. Nice powerful car but not what I'd call fast, never drag raced it but would probably run high 14's or low 15's.


That’s a nice car Scott

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: dart4forte] #2728786
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I bought a 64 Polara from a guy in Phoenix around 1985 that was going through a divorce - it was a 426 Wedge car, pushbutton auto. It had a 3:91 8-3/4" & was a very nice riding car, but I would not rate it as fast, but it did have some power. Anyway, I bought it to re-sell. One guy that came out to look at the car said it was not an original 426W car because it did not have a front sway bar.

My question is this, how can you tell if it is an original car as equipped? In 1964, it was not specified in the serial #, & I did not look for any #'s stamped on the motor. So was a front sway bar a distinguishing factor??? On a humorous note, my business partner referred to it as an "Airstream puller." I likened it to a competitive model against the GTO. About the same size & weight. So WHY was the 1964 GTO so often referred-to as the "first musclecar?"

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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2728789
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If the fender tag is still on the car it will tell you what the factory engine and trans were. If the fender tag is gone then I think you're out of luck unless you can find a VIN registry somewhere. I'm not so sure about the anti-sway bar thing. My '65 Coronet is an original 426W car and it didn't have an anti-sway bar on it as far as I can tell.

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2728807
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I don't think any of the early B bodies before 1967 had front or rear sway bars, I'm going to say the 1967 Dodge R/T and Plymouth GTX where the first B bodies to have front end sway bars scope twocents

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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Cab_Burge] #2728855
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I don't think any of the early B bodies before 1967 had front or rear sway bars, I'm going to say the 1967 Dodge R/T and Plymouth GTX where the first B bodies to have front end sway bars scope twocents


My '66 Charger has one. I think all the Chargers did. work


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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: AndyF] #2728893
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Originally Posted by AndyF
If the fender tag is still on the car it will tell you what the factory engine and trans were. If the fender tag is gone then I think you're out of luck unless you can find a VIN registry somewhere.


On that year model car you can contact Chrysler Historical and they will send you a copy of the IBM card for the car. And if they have enough time they will decode it for you. But you can do that yourself I believe.


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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Cab_Burge] #2728939
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I don't think any of the early B bodies before 1967 had front or rear sway bars, I'm going to say the 1967 Dodge R/T and Plymouth GTX where the first B bodies to have front end sway bars scope twocents


There was an anti-sway bar available for the early B body cars but it was rare. Police cars got them and maybe Taxi cabs. I think it was an option but not many people ordered it. I found one in a wrecking yard years ago and have it hanging on the wall.

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: AndyF] #2729126
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Streetwedge cars came with a front sway bar and 11 inch heavy duty brakes.

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: polara426] #2729173
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Originally Posted by polara426
Streetwedge cars came with a front sway bar and 11 inch heavy duty brakes.

Did all of them come that way or was it a option or mid year change work confused
My 1963 Plymouth 415 HP M.W. car did not have either of those options on it new shruggy


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Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Cab_Burge] #2729175
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by polara426
Streetwedge cars came with a front sway bar and 11 inch heavy duty brakes.

Did all of them come that way or was it a option or mid year change work confused
My 1963 Plymouth 415 HP M.W. car did not have either of those options on it new shruggy


He said STREET wedge, you said MAX wedge.

Not the same.

Re: 1964 426 Wedge questions... [Re: Sniper] #2729212
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I parted out a rusty 64 sport fury 426 st wedge car and it had sway bar and 11in brakes all around, after I took all the good stuff off ( I thought) I was going to junk out the chassis, and some guy paid me stupid money for the hulk with the sway bar and 11in brakes.

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