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Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2727842
12/28/19 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hudsonhornet7x
Originally Posted by mopar dave
I would bet when they do break they don't do the damage to rest of the package as any kind of other rod would.


I was thinking the same thing. Might be a block saver.


Where would the piston/pin end up, both NA and blown in a CF total rod failure?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: jcc] #2727850
12/28/19 09:29 PM
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Exactly. I have seen first hand what damage a steel rod can do when it breaks. Destroyed my block, destroyed my oil pump, destroyed my roller cam, destroyed 2 pistons and another rod and oil pan. Think a carbon fiber rod would do that?

Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: mopar dave] #2727907
12/29/19 08:03 AM
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Ti rods have long been known to beat bearings up too. The real change in usage of materials has come from EFI. Every last serious racing engine ever built that used a carburetor is a detonation machine. They all det on the shift, and no prostock team ever solved it. EFI has, or can eliminate detonation. That is the only reason we see these crazy HP numbers with engine longevity.

TI rods used to beat the bearing out after a few passes on a big bad NA motor. Now they run for a season at 3 times the power with EFI .

A real world example is WJ would have to do top rings and rod bearings after 30 pulls on the dyno. Now 100+ is no big deal with EFI

Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: topside] #2727989
12/29/19 01:03 PM
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Until they provide some real technical info it all rings hollow. They probably are using a different material in these rods but in what way? They say the cheaper ones are 22% stronger and the others 44% but the 4340 they reference is a heat-treat steel that you can make as strong as you want up to a point (where they would be quite brittle).
A couple of years ago I was researching rods and this company had been left behind. This is just a way to get some ink and new interest in their products. There's probably not a lot of substance behind it.


“The rods will be a little stiffer on the big end, because of the strength of the material. The housings will stay a little bit rounder and will maintain shape better, longer.” -Richard Batchelor, Connecting Rod Sales Manager

That's the kind of BS you get from a marketing/sales person, they tend to be full of it.

Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: topside] #2728043
12/29/19 04:21 PM
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Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: WHITEDART] #2728062
12/29/19 05:37 PM
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Is that the new 22% stronger or the new 44% stronger. Remember, more is better even without a basis for measurement.

Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: @#$%&*!] #2728181
12/30/19 12:36 AM
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Anyone have an idea what the new alloys are? I was thinking the 1350 alloy might be Maraging 350. The 1850 sounds like an Inconel or related number to me. Just a guess on my part from no real information other than the yield stress numbers.

https://www.magellanmetals.com/maraging-c350-vascomax-350


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Re: New Carrillo Rod Material [Re: WHITEDART] #2728388
12/30/19 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WHITEDART
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A PAPER PLATE?!?!?!?!

The Carrilllo rod goes on the fine china. Fer shame.

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