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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: ProSport] #2702445
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you need a pressure hose and a return for the pump. this setup looks like it would work with a motor plate.


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: ProSport] #2702451
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there will be two hoses at the pump. generally one is a pressure hose from the pump to the rack, then a return hose from the rack to the reservoir and a feed line from the reservoir to the pump.

That's with a remote reservoir, if you have a pump mounted reservoir then the line between the pump and reservoir isn't there.

Re: Type II power steering box [Re: AndyF] #2702820
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Andy I think this setup will work for me, let us know when you have some ready to sell.

I will probably have to ditch my serpentine setup though so I can run a 2-groove crank pulley.
I'll start looking for a part number for a March pulley kit. Does this TYPEII pump require a bolt-on or press on pulley?


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: ProSport] #2702889
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we sell a serpentine belt pulley for this pump. its also integrated into all of our serpentine belt kits.


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: Jerry] #2702895
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Originally Posted by Jerry
we sell a serpentine belt pulley for this pump. its also integrated into all of our serpentine belt kits.


Awesome. Which brand are you, March?

Edit: I see you're SDC. 👍

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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: 68rrunner] #2709913
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Originally Posted by 68rrunner
Originally Posted by AndyF
Not much information on that KRC bracket! That has to be one of the most ineffective ads for a part that I've seen. Basically zero info.


They work. EMax runs that setup. I don't have any pictures, but you can see it with a quick internet search. 9 years and going strong.


But IIRC, it wasn't 100% bolt on.

I thought it was for a magnum block. So one of the 3 bolt attachments needs some work. LIke an extension cause one bolt didn't line up or something. I have pics of it on the Emax up close.

Re: Type II power steering box [Re: autoxcuda] #2718990
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I bought these brackets from Andy, he said they probably wouldn't work with a motor plate but I wanted to try it anyways.
I had to cut the ear off the rear bracket, I cut it on the dotted line in the photo. I drilled a 5/16 hole in the bracket to bolt it to my motor plate.
Everything was looking great until I realized my bulky Mezeire electric water pump was gonna interfere with the belt.
So I moved the pump over and down, and mounted it straight to the motor plate, and flipped the rear bracket around so it was aimed at the driver side of the car.
I slotted the that hole in the motor plate where the rear bracket bolts to the plate, so that it can move when the belt tension is being adjusted. I think it's gonna work great.

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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: ProSport] #2722056
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What intake is on that RB?

Re: Type II power steering box [Re: mopardamo] #2723059
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Andy, are these available yet? I haven't seen them on your site.


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: MarkZ] #2723483
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Originally Posted by MarkM
Andy, are these available yet? I haven't seen them on your site.


They are available for my build! Not so sure I'm going to make a product out of it. Probably not a lot of folks who want to spend the money required to do this full conversion. The pump and pulley I bought from Detroit Speed were pretty expensive.

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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: AndyF] #2723891
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My pump is made by PSC, I got it at Summit for around $220 and it came with the pulley installed. Not real expensive at all.


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: AndyF] #2724167
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Originally Posted by AndyF
They are available for my build! Not so sure I'm going to make a product out of it. Probably not a lot of folks who want to spend the money required to do this full conversion. The pump and pulley I bought from Detroit Speed were pretty expensive.


Andy, these pumps seem to be a popular add on for Gen3 guys. There may be a market for a conversion bracket, especially because it's a singular plate.


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: A39Coronet] #2724191
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I've seen them on G3 Hemi engines. I think it is a simple conversion since there is a flat area on the engine where the pump mounts. I don't have any G3 stuff in my shop so I don't know exactly how it works.

Re: Type II power steering box [Re: AndyF] #2724264
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by MarkM
Andy, are these available yet? I haven't seen them on your site.


They are available for my build! Not so sure I'm going to make a product out of it. Probably not a lot of folks who want to spend the money required to do this full conversion. The pump and pulley I bought from Detroit Speed were pretty expensive.


I'm looking to do a Hydroboost conversion and need to replace the pump anyways. The Type II stuff seems to have more aftermarket support. If you do decide to make a run of those I'm game. Could probably use one of your throttle brackets for the Sniper EFI too.


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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: MarkZ] #2725166
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A local guy stopped by the other day to get some parts from me and he loved the Type II bracket. He wanted to ditch his old ham can PS pump but didn't know there were any alternatives. So I sold him a set of brackets and told him good luck. He took some pictures of my setup and said he would give it a try. Who knows, he might have his setup running before I get mine done. I'm probably at least 6 months away from getting this project back on the ground.

Re: Type II power steering box [Re: AndyF] #2726263
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wow I really like that set up....I would love a set of brackets if you make some. It doesn't really seem too expensive to convert over to that pump.







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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: A39Coronet] #2726334
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Originally Posted by A39Coronet
Originally Posted by AndyF
They are available for my build! Not so sure I'm going to make a product out of it. Probably not a lot of folks who want to spend the money required to do this full conversion. The pump and pulley I bought from Detroit Speed were pretty expensive.


Andy, these pumps seem to be a popular add on for Gen3 guys. There may be a market for a conversion bracket, especially because it's a singular plate.


Where's what I did on my G3, it also doubles as my torque strap mount [I am not selling them/trying to hi-jack Andy's thread]. The third bracket-to-head bolt is behind the pump and countersunk. The spacing and pulley is just right so that it uses a factory 6.1L serpentine belt. The lower mounting is also a little better on the eyes, the pump is in a pretty prominent location when stock. The bottom right bolt on the bracket is 3/8-24 threaded and serves as a mounting point for a torque strap, which ties to the factory sway bar bracket on the k-frame.

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Goody which pump did you use?

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Originally Posted by JAMESDART
Goody which pump did you use?


I bought a race [ball bearing] pump from PSC motorsports. They do a lot of Jeep/off-road stuff that uses these type of pumps. I may end up going back to figuring out a stock style pump since I'd like to add a torquestorm centrifugal supercharger at some point.

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Re: Type II power steering box [Re: AndyF] #2750776
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I've been looking into running a KRC pump (GM type II) for my 440 and I was just about to ask if you've looked into the Unisteer bracket... until I read further down the thread, lol!

Originally Posted by AndyF
I started off buying the bracket kit from Unisteer but after I bolted it on I decided it was too crappy of a design to use on my car.


That was the only bracket I could find that was on the market.

I'm interested as well if you have a set laying around. I'll be in Oregon next week.

My plan is to swap over to a 1 wire alt, low mount Sanden A/C compressor, 440 Source 6 rib pulleys. I plan on running hydroboost as well.

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