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Mopar "Monte Carlo" Bar #2722834
12/09/19 09:38 PM
12/09/19 09:38 PM
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So I used the term "Monte Carlo bar", not sure what is the best label. On our uni-body/TB cars there has IMO never been a good/proper solution. Best upgrades offered always seemed to be band aids, even the 5 post tested marketed stuff years back, and with today's rather heavy weld in steel bracing offerings.

This is problem I've pondered for over a decade.
My design criteria in order of priority:

1. It must be affordable
2. I must be able to fabricate it
3. It must straightforward or KISS
4. It must be effective in its reduction of twist and increased stiffness of front chassis
5. Is weight must be in proportion to its expected benefits
6. It must able to be worked around or be easily removable.
7. It should look professional
8. It does not need to offer any increase in safety, but must not reduce safety
8. It does not need to offer any significant crash worthiness

So I'm happy to report I finally have a design that achieves the above, for me.
Its not likely adaptable to all unibody mopars, as it was not intended to.
I am very happy with the expected stiffness this design should offer, but this comment is like grading your own spelling test.
I am not selling it, but it will be reproducible for others who seek a similar solution..My solution would not be cheap to replicate exactly, I suspect.
Its being fabricated as we speak, some stuff already out of machineable wax, but will not likely get it done until after Christmas?.
There will be some outside plating involved , so finish time is partly out of my hands.
Its materials currently are 7075 & 6061 Alum and bonded CF.
It is removable with 3/8" 4130 press pins.
Currently application is an early B body/SB.
Pics posted only when installed.

So anybody got pics of designs they liked/saw/used in the meantime?






Last edited by jcc; 12/09/19 09:42 PM.

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Re: Mopar "Monte Carlo" Bar [Re: jcc] #2722904
12/10/19 10:22 AM
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I have no idea what you are talking about!?! How about a picture...


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Re: Mopar "Monte Carlo" Bar [Re: Rhinodart] #2722922
12/10/19 12:01 PM
12/10/19 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
I have no idea what you are talking about!?! How about a picture...
Until the OP responds I am thinking underhood brace, to, between or around the shock towers.

Re: Mopar "Monte Carlo" Bar [Re: 340Cuda] #2722940
12/10/19 12:57 PM
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between the shock/strut towers [and possibly connected to the cowl as well] was always my understanding of a "monte carlo bar".
beer

Re: Mopar "Monte Carlo" Bar [Re: moparx] #2722974
12/10/19 02:18 PM
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If apology is needed, I'll offer. Sorry, my exuberance in finally resolving a long lingering low level design issue for a useful Mopar "Monte Carlo bar" maybe got me over sharing.

I'm in route to PRI, and the Holidays add a bit more obligations, so this project is not on the front burner, but still progressing.

Again, pics when installed.


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Re: Mopar "Monte Carlo" Bar [Re: jcc] #2722979
12/10/19 02:22 PM
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i for one, will be interested in seeing this.
fabrication ideas intrigue me.
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