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Garage Recommendations #2722475
12/08/19 08:49 AM
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Looking to build a 3 car garage for my Mopars - was thinking about a metal building? Any members feedback on wood versus metal buildings would be greatly appreciated. Any recommendations or experiences with prefab wood garage providers? Any recommendations on Metal garage providers?
I am located in Charlotte NC

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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2722482
12/08/19 09:29 AM
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Go with metal building! Less of a problem with termites etc. I built a 25x50 garage in Ma. 1999, wood insulated forced air heat worked out great. Moved to South Carolina built a 30x60 metal building insulated working on the office area now better deal, cheaper to build. Go online and search for a company, they sell the buildings most don't make them I got mine from a Florida Company but it was fabricated in SC many are made there for different companies they just change the name on the building Hope that helps, Regards Bill

Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2722493
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Use radiant heat in the floor. You can't beat it. No noise. No dust flying around. No breeze from the fans. The floor is not ice cold. I live in PA and have a 36' x 48', 2"x 6" fiberglass insulated building. With metal siding inside and out. Propane hot water heat in the floor. I set my thermostat at 58 degrees unless I am going to be in there for a long period of time. Then I turn it up to about 64 for a little while. You can lay on the floor to do something and not freeze. Yes I wear a sweatshirt while I work in there. Heating costs about $500 - $600 year. Can't beat that in PA,

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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2722494
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They both have their positive points. When I built my 28 x 40 I went stick build with storage trusses and scissor trusses in one bay for a lift. Stick built has the ease of insulating, running wiring and finishing. I did OSB on the interior walls and can hang anything anywhere.

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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2722551
12/08/19 12:57 PM
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Your gonna get a bunch of differing opinions on this...so heres mine
I built a 50X40 stick built with asphalt roofing and radiant floor heat and wouldn't change a thing. The cost was on par with steel construction. Heres why;

Stick construction is common to most people and required tools are not considered specialized
materials are readily available at all Lumbar yard and home stores
Insulation and wiring are typical ( as mentioned prior)
appearance is less obtrusive - Looks like a house rather than a building
Interior finish requires no additional support material ( mine is OSB covered in Steel siding as a fire barrier)
Potential future conversion into a tradition living space will be easier

With regard to heat, you cant beat radiant floor. I do not care what argument you come up with until you have experienced a well designed and installed radiant system you will arguing with ignorance
Price The biggest cost is the insulation under the floor, second id the heating unit
A quick breakdown - 50 X40 floor
$2100 floor insulation
$ 600 Heater (24Kw Elec on demand H2O heater)
$450 in Pex tube and fittings
$ 300 Manifold ( I had less cost found on ebay for $60)
$75 1/24hp water pump
$100 thermostat w floor sensor
filled with 13gal of distilled H2O

Monthly heating cost is aprox $100 here in Western NY. Temp kept a 60 degs 24/7 from mid Oct to mid April and as stated prior sweat shirt is all you need and the floor is room temperature.
I use a thermostat that monitors the floor temp and is set to come on when the floor temp drops to 64 degs and shuts off at 68 degs







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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2722583
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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: W.I.N. racing] #2722587
12/08/19 04:19 PM
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That looks great! What was your concrete cost per yard? I was quoted 125.00/yard here...

Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: tboomer] #2722604
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if you haven't done so already i would check with local zoning and see what they will allow you to build as per size, and appearance of the shed.

i almost bought what i hoped to be my dream house until i checked with zoning. they wouldn't let me build a garage big enough, only 1000sq ft on 3/4 ac lot, to fit my minimum desires


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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Mr T2U] #2722622
12/08/19 06:40 PM
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I went back with stick built after my garage burned down. Zoning would not let me do what I wanted to do with steel. I already had the slab for the old garage which was a bigger footprint than currently allowed to build new, luckily I was grandfathered. I did get to go higher which was the height of my house, could not go any higher. Put a larger door on the front, 18x9 and another door on the side 8x8. I do not like radiant floor heat as it makes your feet sweat like crazy if you wear work boots! Since I already had the slab I couldn't do it anyway, but I had a steel building with radiant tube heat and it worked well. twocents


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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: tboomer] #2722632
12/08/19 07:09 PM
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Byron, NY
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Originally Posted by tboomer
That looks great! What was your concrete cost per yard? I was quoted 125.00/yard here...

Thanks, That's what I was quoted ( 2011) but I had a pump truck there too at 200/hr. I hired out the concrete work and didn't get the quality I was promised... long story. Math says 27 yds, wound up with 34yds was one of the issues.

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FOR SALE'02 D1500, Blown/Inj KB, Veny Heads,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60 FOR SALE
'01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust,
'05 Dodge Magnum R/T8
'60 Willys CJ5
'01 International LPX - Project, 8.3L Cummins, Allison 2000
'64 Plymouth Valiant S/P, 528 Hemi, 2spd
Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rhinodart] #2722634
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
. I do not like radiant floor heat as it makes your feet sweat like crazy if you wear work boots!

Mine doesn't and I wear work boots 16-18 hrs a day... if the floor is that warm then the system is not properly designed/built.

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FOR SALE'02 D1500, Blown/Inj KB, Veny Heads,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60 FOR SALE
'01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust,
'05 Dodge Magnum R/T8
'60 Willys CJ5
'01 International LPX - Project, 8.3L Cummins, Allison 2000
'64 Plymouth Valiant S/P, 528 Hemi, 2spd
Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2722638
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If possible, my suggestion would be, go bigger. I just added onto my 24x24 last year; I'm at 24x42 now. I already feel like it's too small.

Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: parksr5] #2722649
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yep went from a 24x24 to 50x40 and in a scant 7 yrs wish it was bigger


FOR SALE'02 D1500, Blown/Inj KB, Veny Heads,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60 FOR SALE
'01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust,
'05 Dodge Magnum R/T8
'60 Willys CJ5
'01 International LPX - Project, 8.3L Cummins, Allison 2000
'64 Plymouth Valiant S/P, 528 Hemi, 2spd
Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: W.I.N. racing] #2722701
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I've had a 24x24 for years. When I retire and move out of the city I want to go BIG! Never had a lift at home so that's number 1 on my list also...


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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: rocksmopar] #2722708
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Originally Posted by rocksmopar

I've had a 24x24 for years. When I retire and move out of the city I want to go BIG! Never had a lift at home so that's number 1 on my list also...


A lift is the best tool I've ever spent money on. Especially as you get older, it gets more difficult to climb under cars. The time it saves is significant when you figure the difference in climbing out from under a vehicle for a wrench or whatever vs stepping to a toolbox or roll around cart. All that to say consider the height for future installation of a lift.

One thing I noticed about my metal 30x42, 3 bay, 15ft eaves is moisture on humid days. My shop is not insulated heated or cooled but not necessarily in my area to heat a shop. Cooling would be nice.....nice and expensive.

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Originally Posted by challenger73400
Originally Posted by rocksmopar

I've had a 24x24 for years. When I retire and move out of the city I want to go BIG! Never had a lift at home so that's number 1 on my list also...


A lift is the best tool I've ever spent money on. Especially as you get older, it gets more difficult to climb under cars. The time it saves is significant when you figure the difference in climbing out from under a vehicle for a wrench or whatever vs stepping to a toolbox or roll around cart. All that to say consider the height for future installation of a lift.

One thing I noticed about my metal 30x42, 3 bay, 15ft eaves is moisture on humid days. My shop is not insulated heated or cooled but not necessarily in my area to heat a shop. Cooling would be nice.....nice and expensive.


My existing garage section has 8 ft walls with about 1 ft of block so; a total of 9ft. On the addition, I intentionally went as big as code would allow. I have a peak height of about 17.5 ft so; when I get old and sh*tty and I don't feel like crawling around on the floor anymore, I can get a lift.

Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: parksr5] #2722811
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Been working on this one for the last year. 30x60 has 9’ walls and a huge storage loft with easy steps. Eventually want to insulate and metal walls and ceiling and full electric with modern LED lighting next year project. Wasn’t cheap so far. downfall of good economy nobody works for free Lol. My old building is now for projects, parts and tractors. To original poster the drawback of metal is your cell phone won’t work inside which might be a good thing!

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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Mr T2U] #2722829
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
if you haven't done so already i would check with local zoning and see what they will allow you to build as per size, and appearance of the shed.

i almost bought what i hoped to be my dream house until i checked with zoning. they wouldn't let me build a garage big enough, only 1000sq ft on 3/4 ac lot, to fit my minimum desires


My township limit was also 1000sqft, but the variance process was easy. $350 up front for the application fee, and ended up getting a big chunk of that back when all was said and done because the meeting went so quick. Even had a jagoff neighbor show up and try to fight it, but the board saw right through his made up BS. Took lots of photos, touched on average neighborhood property value, did my research to make it easy. Got approved for 1500sqft and can even be built prior to primary building construction.

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Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: A39Coronet] #2722927
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I feel very lucky to have an extra long single car garage (separate from two car for daily drivers) attached to my home. However I am very envious of the large and roomy shops you guys have built, you all are very fortunate.

Re: Garage Recommendations [Re: Rutgersknight] #2723074
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If you do radiant heated floors make sure you mark out spot if you are going to be putting a car lift in your garage. I got a great deal on a lift because a guy did not know where his lines were.

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