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19 Auto Magazines bite the dust #2722213
12/07/19 12:24 AM
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Support your last 3 mopar magazines instead of whining about how you don't like _________

Here is the full list of the 19 publications ending their print run.

4-Wheel & Off-Road
Automobile
Car Craft
Chevy High Performance
Classic Trucks 
Diesel Power
Hot Rod Deluxe 
Jp
Lowrider
Mopar Muscle
Muscle Car Review
Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords
Mustang Monthly
Street Rodder
Super Chevy 
Super Street
Truck Trend 
Truckin’
Vette


Story here

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: ThermoQuad] #2722219
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I saw that on Facebook, Dave Frieberger had posted it and people started sharing his post.

They'll still exist, but only as online subscriptions.

Just another thing that the internet has changed how it's done.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: ThermoQuad] #2722220
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Ohhhhhh.........NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean toyota and Blunder Motors no longer make the best vehicles in the Universe???????

That can't possibly be!

Did a little thing called "real World" car owners venting on this new, uncensored thing called the "Internet" cause some sort of a downfall to toyota and Blunder Motors glorious ratings?

No Schitt Sherlock! wink up

"percieved" quality, laugh2 when is consumer reports and jd power going to go down the sewer where they belong as well?

All I can say is GOOD RIDDANCE. I would have thought at the time "Escort" radar detectors should have sold more units than toyota and BM for all the advertising space they served up.



Out of all of those rags I must give some praise to David E Davis Jr. and his Staff at Automobile for their comical, yet truthful publication. up

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: ThermoQuad] #2722224
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As a graphic designer who predominantly does print work, I am living this every day. I’ve made my living doing direct mail catalogs. Those are being supplanted by websites too. What can you say, everything evolves.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: rrbrucea] #2722230
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Yet more proof that our hobby is dying!


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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: chargervert] #2722240
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Back in the late '90's I used to buy Street Rodder off the newstand religiously. I remember them being excited and proud that each month they had 300 pages each month (I think that was the number.. work ). And, no, it wasn't just a catalog with a few articles thrown in. My interest waned and once they were bought out and went back to a 'normal' amount of pages, I stopped buying it.

Speaking of buying, what's the price of a magazine up to.......$7.00 or higher? For less than 100 pages with the bulk of it being advertising? Gee, could that be part of the problem?


John

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Satilite73] #2722241
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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: chargervert] #2722243
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E-zines have been a thing for almost 15 years and I want to say the pioneer was Time Inc. They produce Time, Sports Illustrated and People magazine among other titles.

When the bottom dropped out of the economy in 08 I was working a BS retirement job at a magazine factory. We did titles across many segments - the Time weeklys above, Family Circle and it's mirror Parents, W magazine (big glossy fashion mag), the biker trilogy (V-Twin for PG audience, Biker was more R rated, In the Wind could have been Hustler with some tweaks) and a bunch of other stuff including Car and Driver, LMC catalogs, some huge musician supply catalog, etc, etc.

It took maybe 6 months to trickle down to the production floor but probably 40% of the work went poof. It started as all the same titles and the same number of monthly books but the page counts were way down because advertising dollars went elsewhere. Time and Sports Illustrated was a big job for us and they lost a lot of pages just from GM going bankrupt. Less ad revenue for the publisher led to squeezing the printers for better prices. When the efficiency experts showed up, that's when I knew the grave was being dug.

The big players in the industry started buying up the smaller ones just for their print orders. The physical assets that were part of the purchase (buildings, equipment, labor) got scraped. Take excess production capacity out of the market to prop up supply based pricing in the face of dwindling demand. By the time I got fired for my attitude problem the only thing keeping the lights on was the one million plus junk mail Coupon Clipper rags we did every week. It was deja vu for the idiots running the place as they had been big dogs in the paper catalog business before the rise of ecommerce and on line shopping. At least I got out before they got bought and shuttered a year or so later.

At the time one reality show I watched was Swamp Loggers. The premise was basically Axe Men in the bayou. Harvesting low grade lumber from flooded tracts and kinda interesting in the way Gold Rush is - the machines and the process. Almost everything they cut down went to pulp mills for making paper. The main drama element over the last couple seasons was the companies going broke because the paper companies were going broke and not buying as much raw material. Magazine printing companies buy paper by the train load. Subscription vs news stand is about a 90 / 10 split so the US Postal Service took a hit too.

On a brighter note, my next pointless retirement job ended up being internet proof. I got a gig in distribution center for Kelloggs. I can't imagine them coming up with a way to email pop tarts and corn flakes anytime soon.


75 Charger SE - 440/4, cop suspension
76 Daytona - survivor
76 Daytona - tweaked
77 PW - macho clone, sno-commander, frankenram
79 RC - this was your fathers 4x4
79 LRE - More fun than it looks
Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: ThermoQuad] #2722262
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Originally Posted by ThermoQuad
Support your last 3 mopar magazines instead of whining about how you don't like _________

Here is the full list of the 19 publications ending their print run.

4-Wheel & Off-Road
Automobile
Car Craft
Chevy High Performance
Classic Trucks 
Diesel Power
Hot Rod Deluxe 
Jp
Lowrider
Mopar Muscle
Muscle Car Review
Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords
Mustang Monthly
Street Rodder
Super Chevy 
Super Street
Truck Trend 
Truckin’
Vette


Story here
You can dd Autoweek to this list, got my last print issue about a month ago.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: RWG75] #2722263
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I tried, I just don't sit down and read anything really. If I see something on here or facebook that catches my interest I will dig into and it and read all about it. But I seldom pick up anything too read just because. I have done two subscriptions to hot rod over the last few years and I only read one issue from each year, it was the issues my car was in for drag week lol. The rest collected dust.


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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Bad340fish] #2722270
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I think the market got saturated. Half those mags listed covered the same crap. You can only build so many SB Chev(or LS) motors before the readers get bored and decide to spend their money elsewhere. I dropped Hot Rod many years ago for that reason....don't miss it one bit. Hell they keep trying to practically give it to me and I won't. It would end up in the recycle bin anyway. Consider the 100 pages of ads and there really isn't a ton of content. I agree with the comment about Consumer Reports and JD Power.....complete garbage!!

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Dcuda69] #2722292
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Well the tree huggers will be happy, that'll save a lot of trees laugh2 , Not sure about the USPO though, probably use it as an excuse to raise the price of stamps again shruggy

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: TJP] #2722330
12/07/19 02:54 PM
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On a brighter note, my next pointless retirement job ended up being internet proof. I got a gig in distribution center for Kelloggs. I can't imagine them coming up with a way to email pop tarts and corn flakes anytime soon

The may be internet proof, but they're not millennial proof........... LINKY


John

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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Satilite73] #2722336
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when is this to take effect, and will the publisher contact subscribers in any way ?
i have four titles that are going internet, and i just don't have the time to sit in front of a screen all day to view 'em.
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Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Satilite73] #2722350
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Originally Posted by Satilite73

The may be internet proof, but they're not millennial proof........... LINKY


Ya know, I actually believe that. My girl is a millennial and her idea of rinsing a dish is giving it to the dog to lick clean.

Kellogg owns Keebler and a few other big brands. A slow down on the cereal side would actually be a good thing as they usually run mandatory overtime in the summer to try to keep up. Truth be told, doesn't really matter any more. Most of the managers let me slide on the mandatory OT thing because they knew I'd get fired for attendance points if they pushed it. The new blood HR bimby brought in a new blood manager that was a total dick and I got applauded and then fired for gross insubordination.

I decided to retire a year or two early before I got to the door.


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76 Daytona - survivor
76 Daytona - tweaked
77 PW - macho clone, sno-commander, frankenram
79 RC - this was your fathers 4x4
79 LRE - More fun than it looks
Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: 340Cuda] #2722357
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
Originally Posted by ThermoQuad
Support your last 3 mopar magazines instead of whining about how you don't like _________

Here is the full list of the 19 publications ending their print run.

4-Wheel & Off-Road
Automobile
Car Craft
Chevy High Performance
Classic Trucks 
Diesel Power
Hot Rod Deluxe 
Jp
Lowrider
Mopar Muscle
Muscle Car Review
Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords
Mustang Monthly
Street Rodder
Super Chevy 
Super Street
Truck Trend 
Truckin’
Vette


Story here
You can dd Autoweek to this list, got my last print issue about a month ago.


I actually considered renewing my mopar muscle subscription, but it just got thinner and thinner so I didn't bother. Nothing but advertising anyway. Hopefully mopar action sticks around, at least the articles are entertaining.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Nukechargerboy] #2722503
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This really stinks.I just renewed my subscription to Muscle Car Review.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: 5carguy] #2722521
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This really stinks.I just renewed my subscription to Muscle Car Review.




Me too, just renewed MCR

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: blaze] #2722578
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Mopar Muscle is a useless ad-filled rag anyway !! Current Jan 2020 issue 74 pages (the call the front ant back covers "pages" !!) of which 27 pages have ads and most of those are full-page.

Re: 19 Auto Magazines bite the dust [Re: Stanton] #2722599
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About the only one I buy anymore is Collectible Automobile. Nice variety of cars featured, and no ads.

I used to buy Car Craft & Muscle Car Review, but like others here have said, they got thinner on content and loaded up on advertisements. Most of the ads didn't even apply to me because I'm Canadian and have no access to most of them anyway.

Not to mention, in my dead end little town anyway, children/young adults just aren't into cars anymore. They're too expensive and (according to some of the kids) too complex to work on. So, it comes as no surprise to me that another bunch of magazines are going away. It's sad, but I guess that's the direction the world is going.

I'm still envious that a lot of you guys got to enjoy the golden years in the 50's, 60's and 70's. I caught the tail end of it all in the 80's but can say from my experiences, car culture is definitely on the wane.

I will say though.... this last year at the Portland Swapmeet..... I wasn't the youngest person there! Quite a few 20-somethings buying parts and talking about their projects. So, that was refreshing.


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