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Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: madscientist] #2716600
11/17/19 01:22 AM
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Reread my post, carefully. All your answers are there. If you can't find them, that's OK. Oil, politics,religion,any brand of anything, well...who cares. Next.

Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: DrCharles] #2716608
11/17/19 03:13 AM
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Probably... not much else it could be. Still, if it's really "1/4 quart" that's 8 ounces, a full cup. You must have used a lot of assembly lube

funny had a 467 SBC with ..oil pressure problems. Pulled pan to check bearings pan and pickup had sludge. Cleaned out replaced pump used AMSOIL problem solved. The motor is 15-1 and the guy uses Q16. i have seen this fuel and alcohol cause engine oil to break down and sludge. Avgas i believe could be a problem also. That motor runs 8.80s in 3200lb nova. Freshened after 150 passes and the motor was clean. Some race oils can be a problem also. The first oil in that motor was Brad Penn

Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: 71Pan] #2716699
11/17/19 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 71Pan
Probably... not much else it could be. Still, if it's really "1/4 quart" that's 8 ounces, a full cup. You must have used a lot of assembly lube

funny had a 467 SBC with ..oil pressure problems. Pulled pan to check bearings pan and pickup had sludge. Cleaned out replaced pump used AMSOIL problem solved. The motor is 15-1 and the guy uses Q16. i have seen this fuel and alcohol cause engine oil to break down and sludge. Avgas i believe could be a problem also. That motor runs 8.80s in 3200lb nova. Freshened after 150 passes and the motor was clean. Some race oils can be a problem also. The first oil in that motor was Brad Penn


Alcohol can do much the same as you have seen to real synthetic oils. You have to be careful with off the shelf oils because they are blended to keep costs down and fit many as many types of fuel and combinations.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: madscientist] #2716761
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100 percent correct

Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: 71Pan] #2716992
11/18/19 01:04 AM
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I have found the same thing , sludge like coating on the bottom of the pan. It surprised me at first then thought about it. I figured it was the assembly lube settled out. Cleaned out the pan and bolted it back on. I have also noticed with the intake off a certain RED cam / lifter assembly lube just wash right of as the engine was being primed and turned over..


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Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: 71Pan] #2717036
11/18/19 08:50 AM
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I have used both Amsoil and Brad Penn oils and have never had sludge in my pan. I have also used several different assembly lubes and no issues there either. I really like the Royal Purple assembly lube. I didn't like the Red Line paste. Too hard to apply.

Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: mopar dave] #2717074
11/18/19 10:19 AM
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I had that in the pan before and it was metal wear from rocker shafts one time, and the pins in the roller lifters the other time....

Fixed the issues and the black sludge went away. I was and still am using Brad Penn oil.

Also left a nice black ball on the magnetic drain plug when I pulled it out.


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Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: mopar dave] #2717077
11/18/19 10:23 AM
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Ive juse got my lil tidbit of experience here.

Brad Penn, forever, and always, Break ins with Gibbs, and assembled with Gibbs engine assembly paste. LOVE this paste for cams, and coating friction parts before assembly.

Use to use the ARP assembly lube and the pan looked like a kids diaper after a hard night of pork and beans...


Never a fan of AMsOIL as i hate their sales pitches, and telling me to run oils to 20000 miles and change filter to 10K

THOSE WORDS SHOULD NEVER COME OUT OF A SALESMANS MOUTH!

But I have never seen any kind of dirty sludge in the pans of any engine Ive built after I stopped using the Moley paste...

Re: AMSOIL SLUDGE IN PAN [Re: moparacer] #2717106
11/18/19 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by moparacer
I had that in the pan before and it was metal wear from rocker shafts one time, and the pins in the roller lifters the other time....

Fixed the issues and the black sludge went away. I was and still am using Brad Penn oil.

Also left a nice black ball on the magnetic drain plug when I pulled it out.


None of the black stuff in my pan was magnetic, that's why I thought it was off the spacers on the T&D rockers.

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