Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
440 Aluminum water pump housing? #2715254
11/12/19 09:17 PM
11/12/19 09:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 714
USA
L
Lawn Monkey Offline OP
super stock
Lawn Monkey  Offline OP
super stock
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 714
USA

Whats to know about 440 aluminum water pump housings? I think I want one, are they a direct fit . I'd like a USA made housing , any suggestions?

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: Lawn Monkey] #2715274
11/12/19 09:55 PM
11/12/19 09:55 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 21,912
Florida STAYcation
Noble Crusader Offline
She gonna love me for long long time
Noble Crusader  Offline
She gonna love me for long long time

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 21,912
Florida STAYcation
Yo Monk .....don’t thimk there’s a USA housing anymore....direct fit ? Depends on what your combo is

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: Lawn Monkey] #2715312
11/12/19 11:54 PM
11/12/19 11:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 891
Tustin, CA
P
pishta Offline
super stock
pishta  Offline
super stock
P

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 891
Tustin, CA
The ports are smaller inside than a stocker.


12 Grand Caravan
06 T&C
02 T&C
96 Breeze
65 Barracuda "S"
Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: pishta] #2715321
11/13/19 01:18 AM
11/13/19 01:18 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,227
Phoenix, AZ
Jjs72D Offline
pro stock
Jjs72D  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,227
Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by pishta
The ports are smaller inside than a stocker.

In some cases, that was true.
440Source did have a run of rough castings that had the smaller internal passages but they have improved them since then.

One thing to make a note of:
The thermostat sits higher on the aluminum housings by 5/8". This can interfere with the fitment of the A/C compressor if you are considering an aftermarket Classic Auto Air kit with the small Sanden compressor.

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: Jjs72D] #2715331
11/13/19 04:44 AM
11/13/19 04:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 714
USA
L
Lawn Monkey Offline OP
super stock
Lawn Monkey  Offline OP
super stock
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 714
USA
Combo or fitment is just a basic 1970 440 came out of an old Chrysler New Yorker. In the 70's if I remember correctly these aluminum water pump housings were 200 dollars from Direct Connection , I find them easily on ebay 78 dollars and up . The low ebay prices makes me wonder if they're are of a good decent quality confused

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: Lawn Monkey] #2715332
11/13/19 05:19 AM
11/13/19 05:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 714
USA
L
Lawn Monkey Offline OP
super stock
Lawn Monkey  Offline OP
super stock
L

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 714
USA
This one in the link is made in South Korea , it looks good, do y'all think it will fit and keep my engine cool?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/360942088722?ul_noapp=true

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: Lawn Monkey] #2715481
11/13/19 06:28 PM
11/13/19 06:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,032
Wichita
G
GY3 Offline
master
GY3  Offline
master
G

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,032
Wichita
They work great.

6000 + miles on my 505" RB.

Hundreds of dragstrip passes.

Never any issues using the stock '65 radiator and factory clutch fan.

Takes 600 hp and a 200 shot of nitrous like a Walrus takes to water!


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.40 @ 130mph with a 200 shot of nitrous. 6.48 @ 105mph in the 1/8th. 1.37 60 ft.

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: MikeyT] #2716034
11/15/19 10:10 AM
11/15/19 10:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,311
Albany, NY
67SATisfaction Offline
The member whose name is actually Art
67SATisfaction  Offline
The member whose name is actually Art

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,311
Albany, NY
Any idea how much weight the aluminum water pump housing saves?
- Art


1965 Satellite hardtop 361/2bbl, 727, pegleg 2.76
1967 Satellite convert 383/4bbl, 727, pegleg 3.23
1975 Maserati Bora, 4.9L DOHC hemi V8, 5-spd manual ZF box
1982 Alfa Romeo GTV6, 2.5L SOHC hemi V6, 5-spd man transaxle
2007 Aston Martin DB9, 6.0L DOHC V12, 6spd man transaxle
Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #2716132
11/15/19 03:45 PM
11/15/19 03:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,032
Wichita
G
GY3 Offline
master
GY3  Offline
master
G

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,032
Wichita
Originally Posted by 67SATisfaction
Any idea how much weight the aluminum water pump housing saves?
- Art


8 lbs. as I recall.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.40 @ 130mph with a 200 shot of nitrous. 6.48 @ 105mph in the 1/8th. 1.37 60 ft.

Re: 440 Aluminum water pump housing? [Re: GY3] #2716141
11/15/19 04:25 PM
11/15/19 04:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,355
S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY Offline
I Live Here
ZIPPY  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,355
S.E. Michigan
MP was the last seller that I am aware of, for USA origin B/RB water pump housings.
The last place they were made was the same California facility that also cast and machined the M1 intake manifold line.

All gone now.

The older Direct Connection housings are cast pretty roughly and are a little bit thin compared to the MP pieces. I don't know where
they were cast as that was before my time, but it had to have been from different tools than the last MP housings.





Rich H.
1969 Plymouth GTX
451ci B engine
11.02 at 123mph
NA, 93 octane E10 fuel, DOT tires, mufflers, no trailer
Direct Connection Tech Alumni '05 to '13
Learning without end, your influences, influencing others (all too often unknowingly until years after the fact) and the people you meet are the best part.




Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1