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Re: How to make a early Hemi a good cruiser ? [Re: moparx] #2733069
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Re: How to make a early Hemi a good cruiser ? [Re: moparx] #2798903
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Originally Posted by moparx
first thing ya need to do, is pick up a copy of Tex Smith's "The Complete Chrysler Hemi Engine Manual"" by Ron Ceridono.
it's been out of print for a while, but i think you may be able to pick up a copy on the bag. maybe elsewhere ? i haven't looked.

don't know what to tell ya on mpg. either adapt an A518 or use a gearvendor. stock engines in the cars they came with were not known for gas misers, but weren't too bad for the times.
put in a lighter vehicle, it would definitely help, but by how much, who knows ?

as to the unleaded gas issue, hardened exhaust valve seats would be a good idea, however, unless you are beating on it at the drags, or stop light to stop light, this may not be entirely necessary. chrysler used way better material in their engines than did the others, and you may be able to skip this step unless the seats are beat in bad, or the valves are burnt up.

and don't forget this : "hemis = $$$". they are not an inexpensive engine to build.
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Actually, instead of harden seats go with stainless valves. May cost more buy they really hold up from years of use. Been doing it for years.


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Re: How to make a early Hemi a good cruiser ? [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #2798905
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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass..
Originally Posted by Sniper


84 beans shipping !! ... oUcH



Stupid money


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Re: How to make a early Hemi a good cruiser ? [Re: Old Ray] #2799084
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Originally Posted by Old Ray
Originally Posted by wayfarer
Minor clarifications..
The first Plymouth only engine, the 'A' series, was 1956 at 277 cubic inch.
The Dodge based Poly engines, 241 and 270 overlaped the A engine into 1956 in the Plymouth car line.
The Chrysler 'Poly' engine was the Spitfire and was first used in the 1955 Windsor as a 301 ci. This is a poly head on a Hemi block. This is NOT the same as the Plymouth 301 which is an A engine. In 1956 the Spitfie used the 331 block and in '57 and '58 was a 354.
The Dodge based Poly can be converted to Hemi.
The Spitfire can be converted to Hemi.
The Plymouth A series cannot be converted.


Is there a LOGICAL explanation for why the engineers at the time (and latter) had such a proliferation of different unrelated engines ... other than LSD in the water cooler?
For the average klutz (me) it is impossible with out a cheat sheet to keep this all straight`, ... it gives me a headache! spank


They didn't know any better. They thought they were improving things. They didn't understand that they were polluting the production line until some point in the 70's when the Japanese started to kick their rears. Then they figured out that they didn't have to change everything every year.

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Originally Posted by AndyF


They didn't know any better. They thought they were improving things. They didn't understand that they were polluting the production line until some point in the 70's when the Japanese started to kick their rears. Then they figured out that they didn't have to change everything every year.


I think 60's is more when they last consolidated the engine lineup, heck even before the proliferation of Hemi's and Poly's Chrysler essentially had two engine lines, the 23" flathead and the 25" flathead sixes. The small 6's got put into Plymouth's and Dodges, where as the big 6's went to Desoto and Chrysler and Dodge trucks. Canada was another story though.

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I have an empty engine stand just waiting for an early Hemi.


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Re: How to make a early Hemi a good cruiser ? [Re: dart4forte] #2799978
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Originally Posted by dart4forte
I have an empty engine stand just waiting for an early Hemi.


I had an early Hemi for a while, that better be a really good engine stand.

Re: How to make a early Hemi a good cruiser ? [Re: poorboy] #2800035
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NOTHING happened with that 35 ,.. he just disappeared....probably didn’t like that comment I made about the HOSING HE GOT on that 4 link rear end he paid 3k$ for !


But I did get a Jugs engine stand that should handle even a huffed Hemi !

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i have a 55 dodge 241 hemi apart on the shelf i should get rid of. i'll never do anything with it.
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Yur up early !

R u sure you could find ALL OF IT ?

You got an intake that I could put a Plastic Fantastic on it ?

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the intake is just for the original 2 barrel DoC.
you CoULd stack a bunch of adapters together though........... biggrin
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Originally Posted by moparx
the intake is just for the original 2 barrel DoC.
you CoULd stack a bunch of adapters together though........... biggrin
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Now THAT sounds like a cHeEzY way of doing that !

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WaChOo sAyiN' DoC ?
sounds good to me ! .......... laugh2
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Originally Posted by moparx
WaChOo sAyiN' DoC ?
sounds good to me ! .......... laugh2
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You’ve been talkin to that apimp from Pittsburgher too much tsk

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Doc, even the 50s 4 barrel hemi intakes would need an adaptor to put a thermohog on. The original 4 barrel carb base in the 50s is even too small to put a modern AFB on without an adaptor.

You would need to step up and spend a pile of $$$$ on a modern intake for that 50s Hemi if you want a Thermoquad on it. Even the 426 ended production before the Thermoquad came along, you would need to buy an intake or add adaptors to put one on even a 426 Hemi. Gene

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pb ... I’m jsta funnin oleHam2 !

Oh I would IMAGINE it would take A BUNCH of work to adapt that carb to any early Hemi intake .....and NOT to a valuable 4 bbl intake.

THEN to adapt any TQ to a 241 inch motor ??!!

XXXX special secondary jets would have to be made eek

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A couple of Qs ..... what are the cubic inch selection for the early Hemis? 241 the smallest? ... any model or size have a better selection of parts ESPECIALLY pistons and rings ? Any of the selection are an easier adapt to a 62 and up alum 904 or 727 transmission?

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the 241's are the smallest.
desoto seems to be the hardest to get parts for.
i think the transmission adapters available "may" be the same for all ? shruggy
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Wilcap makes adapters to fit just about any trans to an early hemi

http://www.wilcap.com/Hemi.html

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Wilcap makes adapters to fit just about any trans to an early hemi

http://www.wilcap.com/Hemi.html


THX S .... THEY are mighty PROUD of those adapters eek

Upon some deep thought earlier and an email ....is there something to an EZ adapt of a poly 318 trans to a 1st gen Hemi ?

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