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70 RR V Code #2706370
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I am sure there is some kind of story here
Tag, Broadcast Sheet...……….

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner/264488705003

Re: 70 RR V Code [Re: Matt M] #2706382
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I wonder what happened to the bottom of the fender tag?

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Originally Posted by stumpy
I wonder what happened to the bottom of the fender tag?


Trimmed off to hide a rebody?


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The SO number on the sheet matches the one of the tag and the VIN on the sheet matches the VIN on the car so not thinking a rebody unless the sheet is a fake.

There is stuff wrong with the car but it seems like a decent price, I'd love to see the underside of the car.

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Re: 70 RR V Code [Re: mopar346] #2709290
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So what's wrong with this car, it seems decent and at a decent price. It has everything I'm looking for except I want more of a project at project money. I'd think someone wanting a turn key car would be all over this thing. What am I missing here?

I have heard 68-70 B bodies are losing value but I would think the "elite" cars wouldn't be susceptible to that.


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Re: 70 RR V Code [Re: mopar346] #2709294
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Originally Posted by mopar346
So what's wrong with this car, it seems decent and at a decent price. It has everything I'm looking for except I want more of a project at project money. I'd think someone wanting a turn key car would be all over this thing. What am I missing here?

I have heard 68-70 B bodies are losing value but I would think the "elite" cars wouldn't be susceptible to that.


I think he removed the photo with the fender tag. What’s he hiding?


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Re: 70 RR V Code [Re: 1972CudaV21] #2709321
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From what I've seen, that doesn't seem like that great of a deal. The 70 roadrunner doesn't have nearly the upside that any other factory 6 pack Mopar does.


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Re: 70 RR V Code [Re: 70B5Cuda] #2709563
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It does when the 5th digit is a V

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I've seen quite a few advertised with no sheet or tag so I gave them little notice but this one seems to have both and appears to be in a respectable driver state. Of course an in person inspection and verification required. There are several seemingly "restored" cars sitting on E-bay for a while in the $75k range, I really dig the B3 car but it's an auto.


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Originally Posted by mopar346
I've seen quite a few advertised with no sheet or tag so I gave them little notice but this one seems to have both and appears to be in a respectable driver state. Of course an in person inspection and verification required. There are several seemingly "restored" cars sitting on E-bay for a while in the $75k range, I really dig the B3 car but it's an auto.


the EB3 blue 70 RR got bought in Kissimmee in january for 60k $ (inculding fees)
Same price for the FJ5 sublime v-code RR at the same dealership

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here is a 70 Super Bee v-code automatic driver in FY1 yellow for 45k $ sitting at a dealership near Miami.
I have been there and the cars were all just drivers with lots of issues


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Coronet-SUPER-BEE/303326940132

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I would never consider a 70 Super Bee regardless, the Hemi would be the possible only exception but not even sure then. I just don't want one and I couldn't bring myself to turn it into the donor I consider it to be. panic


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I think the big issue is the bottom is cut off the Fender Tag.
I know it has a sheet, but my concern would be is the car an actual V-Code.
Fender Tags and Dash Tags can be swapped and who knows if the B.C. sheet is for this car.

I am not saying its not, but anyone interested in this car needs to look at the body stamps pretty close.

Car has a great color combo.
I follow these cars because I have one.

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Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
Originally Posted by mopar346
So what's wrong with this car, it seems decent and at a decent price. It has everything I'm looking for except I want more of a project at project money. I'd think someone wanting a turn key car would be all over this thing. What am I missing here?

I have heard 68-70 B bodies are losing value but I would think the "elite" cars wouldn't be susceptible to that.


I think he removed the photo with the fender tag. What’s he hiding?


I agree.
Anyone copy the fender tag pic?


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Re: 70 RR V Code [Re: 70B5Cuda] #2709894
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Originally Posted by 70B5Cuda
From what I've seen, that doesn't seem like that great of a deal. The 70 roadrunner doesn't have nearly the upside that any other factory 6 pack Mopar does.


Interesting. I'm curious what the board thinks on this matter. What would bring more coin, a 1970 V-Code 4-speed RR with air grabber or a similarly equipped 1971 V-Code RR?


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Originally Posted by RSI700VIPER
Originally Posted by 70B5Cuda
From what I've seen, that doesn't seem like that great of a deal. The 70 roadrunner doesn't have nearly the upside that any other factory 6 pack Mopar does.


Interesting. I'm curious what the board thinks on this matter. What would bring more coin, a 1970 V-Code 4-speed RR with air grabber or a similarly equipped 1971 V-Code RR?


me gut tells me this would come down to color and options ( especially color )

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Originally Posted by RSI700VIPER
Originally Posted by 70B5Cuda
From what I've seen, that doesn't seem like that great of a deal. The 70 roadrunner doesn't have nearly the upside that any other factory 6 pack Mopar does.


Interesting. I'm curious what the board thinks on this matter. What would bring more coin, a 1970 V-Code 4-speed RR with air grabber or a similarly equipped 1971 V-Code RR?


Interesting....

15 years ago it would be a 70 RR if same for same without much debate.

But I think the 71's are gaining.


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Same same same, I think the 70 but I might be bias, never really lusted after the 71 RR (kinda like fat chicks), now a 71 RT Charger..... I think the Charger takes it. As said above color and options but you have to add condition and quality of build. I think quality of build is missing in a lot of these conversation.

As I mentioned above, I think the tag was legit just damaged (cut), I'm far from an expert but can spot some fakes and this one had no signs of a repop and appears to have weathered in place in the damaged condition for a awhile. The SO/MO number was visible on the tag and everything matched the build sheet to a T, also not an expert on build sheets so I guess they both could have been faked long ago and just waited for this sell. The body numbers matched the V code VIN on the dash, the damage to the tag for those that didn't see it was that the bottom row of numbers including the sequential number was cut off evenly all the way across. and it appeared to be done before paint with at the time I estimated to look factory but working from memory now. As with any high dollar car you need know what you are looking at or/and have someone who knows what they are looking at verify things. I know a bit but I try to get input whenever I can when studying a car or tag so I can continue to learn. I really think the car is real and worth the money but I am beginning to think that is all the money on these cars, buy it for love not profit and you'll do fine. Inspection ALWAYS required. twocents


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Originally Posted by autoxcuda
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Originally Posted by 70B5Cuda
From what I've seen, that doesn't seem like that great of a deal. The 70 roadrunner doesn't have nearly the upside that any other factory 6 pack Mopar does.


Interesting. I'm curious what the board thinks on this matter. What would bring more coin, a 1970 V-Code 4-speed RR with air grabber or a similarly equipped 1971 V-Code RR?


Interesting....

15 years ago it would be a 70 RR if same for same without much debate.

But I think the 71's are gaining.


For me, I prefer the 71s'. My first ride in a muscle car was when I was 15, walking back home from my McDonald's job and a local High School senior pulled over to give me a ride home. He was wheeling a 1971 Black 383 4-speed Roadrunner w/air grabber. Well, that car made an impression. Personal experience aside, I think the 70 will currently bring more coin, but go to a mopar car show and you will see five 1968-1970 RRs for ever one 71-74 RR. I believe in the years to come, the rarity of the 71's will overtake the 70 value wise, apples to apples.


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Chargers I think you can lump in a 68-70 category but I really don't see the 68-69 RRs being in the same category as the 70, I think the doors will fit but the rest of the panels are completely different and the tail is completely different. 70 is a unique year in my view. twocents


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