"Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Let me preface this by saying I've been teched at 5 different tracks with this car. Car has all the safety equipment to run to 10.00...or so I thought!
We had a different guy at our local track this weekend (big Superstock race) and said I needed a head rest or pad mounted to the rollbar?!
The car has Superstock/A100 style fixed mount seats. I really hate to do this as it is a street car and gets used as one OFTEN! I honestly hate having the rollbar in the car but had one put in 2 years ago. This would make it an even bigger PITA to get into the back seat.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Sorry, you'll get no sympathy from me, now or when break your neck, to be blunt. Not asking for sympathy now or ever or your opinion for that matter. Asking if it is requirement from 11.49 down to 10.0?
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Thanks for the link as I had never seen nor heard of this before!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Yes, a headrest is required with the roll bar and low-back seats. I’ll also let you know that it would appear your door bars are not technically legal either. I did my door bars very similarly; they have been accepted by tech at my my track. At the D6 ET Finals this year however, I passed tech but then the NHRA tech director tracked me down in the pits to go over the rules with me. He mentioned my door bar and the lack of a headrest. The door bar must cross your arm above the elbow when your hand is on the wheel. He was real good about it, truly coming across more as helping me than anything. But I get the feeling if I show up at the Divisional next year with the same configuration, I may get bounced (???).
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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How about mounting a removable head pad from the bar. This way you could remove it when you want. Also, just as a safety concern for you, if your shoulders are higher than the top of that bucket seat, i feel there is a possibility of severely compressing your back, God forbid, in a situation. Not picking, you have a world class car there.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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I have a flat bar bolts vertically between taxi bar and top of hoop . Has a padded plate with threaded rod mount horizontally from this . Passes local IHRA and ANDRA tech . I remove it on the street , factory bench seat .
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Its easy. Attach tube to the top hoop. Then attach a pad to it. Look close at the pass seat you'll see that the seats are braced as well. Doug
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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I'm well aware of the door bars nof being "technically" legal but the local chassis shop that built it said they do a lot of street cars that way and tech never says anything. That has never been brought up by any inspector either.
Looks like I need to fab up something.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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I need to do the same thing. Although I made it through NHRA tech at an NHRA track by an NHRA official I know it needs one. He never said a word about my head rest only about my my wrap around belts were done with no way to locate them on the bar. Two things I need to do to be legal for my ET.
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How about mounting a removable head pad from the bar. This way you could remove it when you want. Also, just as a safety concern for you, if your shoulders are higher than the top of that bucket seat, i feel there is a possibility of severely compressing your back, God forbid, in a situation. Not picking, you have a world class car there. This is what I was thinking , but will it be legal ? would it have to be welded permanently affixed to the cage.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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Sorry, you'll get no sympathy from me, now or when break your neck, to be blunt. Not asking for sympathy now or ever or your opinion for that matter. Asking if it is requirement from 11.49 down to 10.0? There is also no requirement that I need your permission to express my withholding of sympathy or expressing my opinion. Regardless, of any requirements, having no head rest today is considered by most rather short sighted and frankly dangerous, and any injuries incurred at the track with the lack of, effects everyone else to some degree negatively, and I see little reason to shy away from stating that, bluntly..
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: "Head rest" with low back buckets?
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How about mounting a removable head pad from the bar. This way you could remove it when you want. Also, just as a safety concern for you, if your shoulders are higher than the top of that bucket seat, i feel there is a possibility of severely compressing your back, God forbid, in a situation. Not picking, you have a world class car there. This is what I was thinking , but will it be legal ? would it have to be welded permanently affixed to the cage. This headrest can be unpinned...so i would say "no" to your question https://timmcamis.com/shop/headrest-kit.htmlI'll need one since A-100 lowback seats have replaced the Kirkeys in the street Dart for the retro look
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