Even though I've raced and cruised Mopars my whole life I've never owned one with power steering so I know nothing at all about it.

I have a '70 Challenger pro touring style street car, it has a Gen2 Hemi with a motor plate and Magnum Force coilover front suspension(soon to be HDK coilover front suspension after I sell the Magnum Force with brakes and coilovers and everything just because of their poor reputation).

I am going with a power rack and pinion steering setup on the new front end, I'm wondering what is the most compact pump to use, I'm looking at a chrome 'saginaw' pump on Mancini's website. I currently use a 6 rib serpentine belt so I would need the appropriate pulley. And some kind of hoses?

My main concern is if the Saginaw pump and Mancini Saginaw brackets will work with a motor plate. I have not called Mancini yet. I also use an electric drop-in water pump in an aluminum water pump housing, thinking about switching to a mechanical water pump with a serpentine pulley if it will all fit. Car has the twin Spal electric fans on a 26" aluminum radiator. If I stay with the electric water pump I'm not real sure how the serpentine belt would route. I have an alternator, no ac or anything.

Any info is appreciated.

Check out AndyF's Type II Pump thread in the Cornering section; you might be able to make that work for your deal.
As for the Magnumforce setup, can it be improved (modified) or is it that hopeless?

Ok thanks, I will definitely check out that thread.

My MF front end is one of the first ones they made, back when their quality was much better than later on. But this car is a fairly high dollar build, I'm basically tired of people looking under my car and scoffing because it has a MF kit, kind of annoying although I've driven it quite a bit for it's first year out, just want to upgrade it and move on, plus I want to add power steering and bigger brakes, pro touring spindles etc, upgrading a lot of parts.

Looks like nobody runs a motor plate with power steering here....

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a car w/ a plate and power steering.
If the car drives fine, I'd tell anyone who talks crap to eff off. Then again, people like that are why I never go to car shows, so I understand.

Might think about an electric power steering pump.

Summit has the pump for $260



there are kits out there and you will need a stout alternator.

Chip, alot of brand X guys run plates and power steering for road racing and Autocross but I figured it'd be hard to find some Mopars with that setup. I'm going with an HDK front end so when I go see him in a couple weeks I'm gonna look at a car he has there and get some measurements.
I drive my car every sunny day but it does have some Magnum Force characteristics, such as having to be careful while reversing as the outside tire is not real happy about going backwards lol, but no bad problems. I'm upgrading the front brakes, steering column and getting pro touring type spindles so I just decided to change EVERYTHING and eventually sell this whole entire front end as one big working unit with Aldan adjustable coilovers included.


I considered electric steering, Unisteer and Flaming River have nice setups in the works, but I just sorted out my electrical problems and really don't want to add more electrics. For a street car I think the fuel pump, water pump, twin fans and big stereo are enough.

Not electric steering, an electric power steering pump where a motor turns a pump and not your engine. You could, theoretically, put the pump in the trunk.

A type II pump will fit with a motor plate since it has a flat backside. You'll need to fabricate a spacer bracket with an adjuster mechanism.

Oh ok, I finally had time to sit down and watch the video, looks interesting but I'm just gonna stick with the regular belt driven power steering.

Doesn't your new kit come with all that you slacker! Just kidding. After I start buying parts I'll understand it better when I test fit them. Definitely interested in your brackets.

My brackets probably wouldn't fit with a motor plate. You'll have to roll your own.

Ok thanks for letting me know Andy, it looked like it would be perfect since your bracket extends away from the motor but I'll keep looking.

I know you said no Electric pump but I had to advise a guy how to replace an electric pump on a late model Hemi Charger just yesterday.

If Ma Mopar used them in production cars they are probably not that bad. Production cars must be made to be quiet and dependable.